Ouch!

[A Black Falcon]

Erm... completely wrong. Terrorist bombing in Madrid. Recently. Al-Quaida ties. Also since 9-11 there has been a lot of other terrorism with ties to them overseas... the nightclub in Bali, some bombings in Morocco, etc... yes, nothing in the US, but that's because of the additional vigilance of 9-11, not anything to do with Iraq. I'd certainly say that destroying Iraq made us less secure, not more secure. After all it's made many Arabs hate us even MORE, and has antagonized a lot of people there... yes some have grown to like us more, but it only takes a few to have an effective terrorist network... I'd bet that this has more than anything strengthened international terrorist ties in Iraq. After all, Sadaam and Osama were at odds philosophically and with Sadaam gone it gives more room for groups like Al Quaida to come in...

Look, after 9-11 we obviously had to do something. That's why I'm not opposed to the war in Afghanistan. But Iraq had nothing to do with it! It was just using a great excuse to do something his family had wanted ever since Bush lost in '92...

Oh yeah and as this 9-11 commission is showing, Bush II was not exactly any better at antiterrorism than Clinton until 9-11. You can't blame Clinton much without also blaming pre-9-11-Bush at the same time. After 9-11 obviously ANY administration would do more... it's the extent and the means of the 'more' (and the cynical exploitation of that for their own gains!) that's the problem here.