11th March 2004, 9:06 PM
By not wanting to go that far outside the storyline do you mean you don't want to have to change the existing story in small ways to allow for the Oracle games (which I wouldn't want to, I found it a very important story point that the triforce had no genuine sentience to it. Or, do you mean you don't want to have to remove the gmaes from the storyline completely? Yeah, I don't want that either. However, the facts kinda need to be faced. There's really no way to reconsile those games with the established plot. While I would like to, it would seem that not only can it not be reconsiled, but regarding the Capcom games, there was never an attempt made to reconsile it. It's similar to the Megaman EXE games not being able to fit in with the Megaman/Megaman X storyline, and not even being made with that in mind.
Now as far as the triforce being in Wind Waker, that's actually explained by the game itself. Before, there was no way to know how Ganon got ahold of the pieces of Wisdom and Courage between OOT and LTTP (he only had power when he was sealed in there). It seems they broke him out JUST so they could give him the other two pieces. A large part of the game circles around Ganon finally obtaining the other two pieces. At the end of the game, one is left to assume the completed triforce was sent back to the dark world WITH Ganon.
Now, this does leave one last thing. In my explanation of how Ganon was there, the one I like anyway, I say Ganon actually just created a shadow of himself. I didn't think of the triforce of power though. How did the piece of power get sent back? Thinking about it, I believe Ganon simply sent it with his own shadow. Perhaps the triforce could pass but Ganon himself could not. He sent it with his shadow so that when the other two pieces were obtained, he could make his wish via his alternate body right away without having to bring them all back. In LTTP, he already HAD the entire triforce, so sending any piece with the new alterego would have been a foolish strategy.
Yes, I do believe that works out for explaining Ganon AND allowing for the triforce of power. As I said, the other two pieces fit in perfectly because Ganon only had the piece of power when banished, and the original Zelda and Link kept the pieces of wisdom and courage until they figured out a plan to hide it (which of course didn't work).
Demigods is a nice term. In JRR Tolkein's main works, they are actually the Heavenly Host of sorts of Illuvatar. Essentially, they are very powerful angels given control over the elements. The elves recognize this, but to the humans they are called gods. Fine term for the humans, but the elves consider it inaccurate, much like how the humans call the arts of elves and wizards magic though the elves find that incorrect, and how the humans refer to the planet itself by a name other than Eu.
Now as far as the triforce being in Wind Waker, that's actually explained by the game itself. Before, there was no way to know how Ganon got ahold of the pieces of Wisdom and Courage between OOT and LTTP (he only had power when he was sealed in there). It seems they broke him out JUST so they could give him the other two pieces. A large part of the game circles around Ganon finally obtaining the other two pieces. At the end of the game, one is left to assume the completed triforce was sent back to the dark world WITH Ganon.
Now, this does leave one last thing. In my explanation of how Ganon was there, the one I like anyway, I say Ganon actually just created a shadow of himself. I didn't think of the triforce of power though. How did the piece of power get sent back? Thinking about it, I believe Ganon simply sent it with his own shadow. Perhaps the triforce could pass but Ganon himself could not. He sent it with his shadow so that when the other two pieces were obtained, he could make his wish via his alternate body right away without having to bring them all back. In LTTP, he already HAD the entire triforce, so sending any piece with the new alterego would have been a foolish strategy.
Yes, I do believe that works out for explaining Ganon AND allowing for the triforce of power. As I said, the other two pieces fit in perfectly because Ganon only had the piece of power when banished, and the original Zelda and Link kept the pieces of wisdom and courage until they figured out a plan to hide it (which of course didn't work).
Demigods is a nice term. In JRR Tolkein's main works, they are actually the Heavenly Host of sorts of Illuvatar. Essentially, they are very powerful angels given control over the elements. The elves recognize this, but to the humans they are called gods. Fine term for the humans, but the elves consider it inaccurate, much like how the humans call the arts of elves and wizards magic though the elves find that incorrect, and how the humans refer to the planet itself by a name other than Eu.
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