6th January 2003, 12:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 6th January 2003, 1:45 AM by A Black Falcon.)
SSDs are incredibly big ships. Sure, they are beatable (the New Republic killed a couple of them, and the Vong mostly killed one), but they are huge and incredibly strong... 12.8km long. Thats huge. Hundreds of fighters, turbolasers, ion cannons... they are extremely powerful. The crew compliment is HUGE, too.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/starshi...r/bts.html (with info and length, along with list of how many laser batteries it had-- hundreds-- on the EU page. Note - size isn't definite, as this theforce.net article shows. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ssd.html#ratio ). http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schema..._ships.htm -- borg ship lengths (site also has other Trek ship specs). 3km long. Less crew than a SSD also (I think I heard 250,000 as the crew of a SSD).
A Borg Cube? Big... but not as long as a SSD. They are taller, though, but honestly I think the SSD would win. More crew, more weapons, and that massive fighter screen should keep the cube occupied long enough to kill it.
Oh, and saying 'maybe the star wars universe is smaller' is just bizarre. It isn't. The Star Wars ships just go a lot faster.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/index.html - interesting site with st-sw comparisons. On the SW side, but thats ok. :)
edit 2: OK. I just don't get how someone could say that ST would win. Lets look at size first. A Imperial Star Destroyer is 1 mile (1600km) long. A SSD is 12,800 km long (official site) or 18km long (Theforce.net estimates based on movie model size). Calimari Cruisers? The big ones are about as big as a ISD. Fighters of course are small, and minor capitol ships are in between.
Weapons? Lasers (also in more powerful Turbolaser battery arrangement in cap ships), Concussion Missiles, Proton Torpedoes, and Ion Cannons (disable machinery). Cap ships have dozens of each... SSD's have hundreds of lasers and ion cannons and over a hundred missile batteries. The range is a weakness, maybe -- only 3-4km (maybe 5 with missiles). I think Trek ships can shoot farth... but usually don't, so range isn't that important either. No, SW just has a huge, huge advantage. There is no possible way the Trek universe could win.
Does Trek have any advantages? Well, yes. One: Transporters. They don't exist in Star Wars... so that'd be a big advantage. That is, once they knock down the shields on a SW ship so they can tranport over... and even then the power advantage SW has probably would win them the day. No Trek ship group could come close to beating a SW one...
http://www.starwars.com/databank/starshi...r/bts.html (with info and length, along with list of how many laser batteries it had-- hundreds-- on the EU page. Note - size isn't definite, as this theforce.net article shows. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ssd.html#ratio ). http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schema..._ships.htm -- borg ship lengths (site also has other Trek ship specs). 3km long. Less crew than a SSD also (I think I heard 250,000 as the crew of a SSD).
A Borg Cube? Big... but not as long as a SSD. They are taller, though, but honestly I think the SSD would win. More crew, more weapons, and that massive fighter screen should keep the cube occupied long enough to kill it.
Oh, and saying 'maybe the star wars universe is smaller' is just bizarre. It isn't. The Star Wars ships just go a lot faster.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/index.html - interesting site with st-sw comparisons. On the SW side, but thats ok. :)
edit 2: OK. I just don't get how someone could say that ST would win. Lets look at size first. A Imperial Star Destroyer is 1 mile (1600km) long. A SSD is 12,800 km long (official site) or 18km long (Theforce.net estimates based on movie model size). Calimari Cruisers? The big ones are about as big as a ISD. Fighters of course are small, and minor capitol ships are in between.
Weapons? Lasers (also in more powerful Turbolaser battery arrangement in cap ships), Concussion Missiles, Proton Torpedoes, and Ion Cannons (disable machinery). Cap ships have dozens of each... SSD's have hundreds of lasers and ion cannons and over a hundred missile batteries. The range is a weakness, maybe -- only 3-4km (maybe 5 with missiles). I think Trek ships can shoot farth... but usually don't, so range isn't that important either. No, SW just has a huge, huge advantage. There is no possible way the Trek universe could win.
Does Trek have any advantages? Well, yes. One: Transporters. They don't exist in Star Wars... so that'd be a big advantage. That is, once they knock down the shields on a SW ship so they can tranport over... and even then the power advantage SW has probably would win them the day. No Trek ship group could come close to beating a SW one...
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