12th February 2004, 5:48 AM
A Black Falcon Wrote:Actually, as far as I know they are not any more likely to become gay than anyone else... and as for gays being born gay, you'll see eventually.
I seriously doubt it. Conventional wisdom, common sense, and scientific evidence so far says otherwise.
Quote:Except I like Maine.
Not enough, apparently, that you would transform it, and the other 49 states, into a similarly-socialist, anything-goes empire of political correctness.
Quote:So doing something that would strengthen the monagamous bonds of marriage would hurt it? That's insane...
How on earth would it strengthen the bonds of marriage? Marriage is between a man and a woman. Again, we have the liberals of the sixties to blame for damaging marriage to the point it's at, and now the next generation of quasi-commies wants to finish the job, replacing it with something quite different.
Quote:More knowledgable? I don't know, and if so he sure doesn't use it wisely... given how many stupid things he defends... I mean, I've seen many of his arguements before. And I've seen things that show how they are wrong (the clinical stuff, for instance, I've seen articles before that show how that is incorrect)... but I won't bother trying to find anything, it'd be utterly pointless.
You never do. I would greatly prefer you never make any points that you aren't willing to back up. Then, I wouldn't care if you didn't feel like it.
Quote:Oh come on, you are so stupid... IT IS NOT INEQUALITY TO BAN THINGS FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN HATRED! And that is EXACTLY what this is. They have the equal right to do whatever they want within a pointless restriction! Oh yeah, banning the one thing that makes them happy is REALLY equality...
There are a myriad of things that make some people happy, yet are legally banned from doing. Why should we make an exception for one particular group of people based on that criteria?
Quote:And equating beastiality and being homosexual is one of the most ignorant and idiotic things I've heard (and I've heard it from conservatives before). I cannot understand how you take this and extend it to things that are far, far more extreme... polygamy? That includes inherent unfairness! One man, multiple women (or polyamory, one woman multiple men). That is unfairness in a word. So that should be banned. Beastiality? Animals don't have free will, that is obviously wrong... incest? That is a thing that has obvious drawbacks... so no, this is in no way in the same category as those things. Not even close.
I love how you support banning polygamy and incest for reasons that you want gay marriage, and for reasons that apply to homosexuality, respectively.
By the way, polyamory isn't illegal, it does not involve marriage, and has nothing to do with women and multiple husbands. It's essentially another term for group sex, though polyamorists consider it more of an emotional thing than sexual.
Quote:Southerners fighting change, Southerners fighting change, the details aren't as important...
They mean everything. Very few Southerners were wealthy enough to own slaves, the idea that they would all fight for the preservation of a system that did not benefit them is a stupid and ignorant one. The main reason for the southern secession was economic, as the South's economy relied heavily on slave labor, and the issue of states' rights.
One other thing, I'm annoyed on how you assume the moral high ground because, as you think, I hate gays. Yet, you share a similar, and much deeper hatred of Christians. You also have definite problems with white people and heterosexuals. Being a White, Heterosexual, Christian, Conservative Male, I think I embody what you believe to be the ultimate combination of the groups who have a right to be hated, discriminated against, and demeaned. Of those traits, you definitely hate conservatism and Christianity the most. You're as hateful as you claim me to be.
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