11th February 2004, 6:45 PM
Quote:But blacks are born black. Gays are not born gay, and children of gays, while likelier to end up gay one day, are not gay from the start. it's still not a good reason to put them in that situation.
Actually, as far as I know they are not any more likely to become gay than anyone else... and as for gays being born gay, you'll see eventually.
Quote:You're right near Canada. They have gay marriage. Get lost and quit whining already. They've got everything you want, practically.
Except I like Maine.
Quote:No. It would change marriage into something very different. I love how liberals today point to high divorce rates as justification for homosexuality not being a threat to the sanctity of marriage when it's the drug-addicted liberal hippies of the 60s who are eminently to blame for that with their utter lack of morals and their ability to project and indoctrinate everyone else with them. Their method of thinking is "We've trashed it and it's in bad shape, so why not just finish it off?"
So doing something that would strengthen the monagamous bonds of marriage would hurt it? That's insane...
Quote:Obivously you didn't. You missed out on a lot of it. Again, if you had, you would have realized you're trying to stare down someone much more knowledgable than yourself. Not that something like that ever stops you.
More knowledgable? I don't know, and if so he sure doesn't use it wisely... given how many stupid things he defends... I mean, I've seen many of his arguements before. And I've seen things that show how they are wrong (the clinical stuff, for instance, I've seen articles before that show how that is incorrect)... but I won't bother trying to find anything, it'd be utterly pointless.
Quote:Point 1: Gay people have equal marriage rights. They are not barred from marriage, just from marrying another in the same gender. We are also unable to marry family, or others who are already married, or animals. So I suppose it's 'discrimination' that we 'persecute' people who wish to participate in these activities. Hell, maybe they're genetically predisposed to them.
Oh come on, you are so stupid... IT IS NOT INEQUALITY TO BAN THINGS FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN HATRED! And that is EXACTLY what this is. They have the equal right to do whatever they want within a pointless restriction! Oh yeah, banning the one thing that makes them happy is REALLY equality...
And equating beastiality and being homosexual is one of the most ignorant and idiotic things I've heard (and I've heard it from conservatives before). I cannot understand how you take this and extend it to things that are far, far more extreme... polygamy? That includes inherent unfairness! One man, multiple women (or polyamory, one woman multiple men). That is unfairness in a word. So that should be banned. Beastiality? Animals don't have free will, that is obviously wrong... incest? That is a thing that has obvious drawbacks... so no, this is in no way in the same category as those things. Not even close.
Quote:Point 2: Southerners fought in favor of slavery for primarily economic and political reasons, you ignorant little man. Religion was hardly a man factor.
Southerners fighting change, Southerners fighting change, the details aren't as important...