4th February 2004, 7:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 4th February 2004, 7:33 PM by A Black Falcon.)
I ranted about this in the WoW thread. I'll post it here too.
To summarize, THOSE STUPID IDIOTS MUST DIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
(if you couldn't guess, TA vs SC was a major issue in 1997 (yes before SC came out) and 1998...
Gamespy is idiotic. I know that I often disagree with their reviews (their recent score of 3/5 for R-Type Final when IGN and Gamespot both gave it a bit over an 8/10 does not make them look good, for one recent example), but still... I thought they had SOME sanity...
http://www.gamespy.com/top10/february04/rts/
:barf:
Gamespy, Gamespy... what an abysmal list... Empire Earth on the list?? Medieval an RTS (TBS/RTS hybrid guys!)? Close Combat an RTS (its a wargame!)? C&C Red Alert better than Warcraft II? TOTAL ANNIHALATION THE BEST RTS EVER??? Morons, utter morons... that game competed with SC for popularity in early 1998, but it didn't take long for most people to figure out which was the better game.
Where is Conquest (should have done better than it did), Netstorm (I know not many people would put this in their top 5, but I'm one of them), Warcraft II (easily still better than most of the games on their list), Red Alert 2 (better than RA1)... heck, even Warzone 2100 (if that was the name, a early 3d-but-topdown RTS that was pretty fun...) is better than Empire Earth... someone must have hit Gamespy pretty hard with the stupid stick at some point.
And I've played some TA... okay game, but highly overrated among its fans and really not that good. This certainly is reopening some old wars... I remember TA-versus-Warcraft II and then TA-versus-Starcraft... I of course have never thought it was that good and that the Blizz games blew it away... 150 units? Are you insane? What in the world is the point? And its a fairly mindless RTS too, more in the C&C vein... fine for people who just want to see the cool 200 tanks run over the badguys but not so fine for people who want much actual strategy, I should think.
Stupid Gamespy, I thought we won this four years ago... :(
Here is my list. Better than theirs by a lot. :D
1. Starcraft with Brood War expansion
2. Warcraft III: Reighn of Chaos with The Frozen Throne expansion
3. Netstorm: Islands at War
4. Medieval: Total War (assuming it's enough of an RTS to count, which it really is not since just the battles are realtime)
5. Age of Empires (AoE2 is the better game, technically, but I thought it was too similar and never was very interested in it. RoN is also better, probably, but AoE was the first in its class and it was a great first.)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
7. Rise of Nations
8. Conquest: Frontier Wars
9. Gettysburg (hey if Close Combat counts, why not another realtime wargame that's much better than Close Combat?),
10. ... ah ... I don't know... Warzone 2100? C&C Red Alert? Dark Reign?
Another series not in the top 10 but worth mentioning is Myth.
To summarize, THOSE STUPID IDIOTS MUST DIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
(if you couldn't guess, TA vs SC was a major issue in 1997 (yes before SC came out) and 1998...
Gamespy is idiotic. I know that I often disagree with their reviews (their recent score of 3/5 for R-Type Final when IGN and Gamespot both gave it a bit over an 8/10 does not make them look good, for one recent example), but still... I thought they had SOME sanity...
http://www.gamespy.com/top10/february04/rts/
:barf:
Gamespy, Gamespy... what an abysmal list... Empire Earth on the list?? Medieval an RTS (TBS/RTS hybrid guys!)? Close Combat an RTS (its a wargame!)? C&C Red Alert better than Warcraft II? TOTAL ANNIHALATION THE BEST RTS EVER??? Morons, utter morons... that game competed with SC for popularity in early 1998, but it didn't take long for most people to figure out which was the better game.
Where is Conquest (should have done better than it did), Netstorm (I know not many people would put this in their top 5, but I'm one of them), Warcraft II (easily still better than most of the games on their list), Red Alert 2 (better than RA1)... heck, even Warzone 2100 (if that was the name, a early 3d-but-topdown RTS that was pretty fun...) is better than Empire Earth... someone must have hit Gamespy pretty hard with the stupid stick at some point.
And I've played some TA... okay game, but highly overrated among its fans and really not that good. This certainly is reopening some old wars... I remember TA-versus-Warcraft II and then TA-versus-Starcraft... I of course have never thought it was that good and that the Blizz games blew it away... 150 units? Are you insane? What in the world is the point? And its a fairly mindless RTS too, more in the C&C vein... fine for people who just want to see the cool 200 tanks run over the badguys but not so fine for people who want much actual strategy, I should think.
Stupid Gamespy, I thought we won this four years ago... :(
Here is my list. Better than theirs by a lot. :D
1. Starcraft with Brood War expansion
2. Warcraft III: Reighn of Chaos with The Frozen Throne expansion
3. Netstorm: Islands at War
4. Medieval: Total War (assuming it's enough of an RTS to count, which it really is not since just the battles are realtime)
5. Age of Empires (AoE2 is the better game, technically, but I thought it was too similar and never was very interested in it. RoN is also better, probably, but AoE was the first in its class and it was a great first.)
6. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
7. Rise of Nations
8. Conquest: Frontier Wars
9. Gettysburg (hey if Close Combat counts, why not another realtime wargame that's much better than Close Combat?),
10. ... ah ... I don't know... Warzone 2100? C&C Red Alert? Dark Reign?
Another series not in the top 10 but worth mentioning is Myth.
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