27th January 2004, 7:53 PM
Close, Jellybean. Nostalgia definitely is a big part... the other big part I can see is the 'I like how the older game worked' thing -- they change the series, and while the changes might be objectively better you like how it used to be and thus react hostiley to them, while a newbie to the series would love the newer games...
Some very good examples of that would probably be Jedi Knight/Mysteries of the Sith vs. Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, or Civilization vs Civilization II vs Civilization III, or Extreme-G 2 vs Extreme-G 3. I don't like the way they changed those serieses in their "improved" newer games, darnit!
Nostalgia definitely plays a role... for SMB especially. I just don't feel the same about the SNES one, while the NES version definitely bring back memories. Thus I think the NES version is definitely better. Link's Awakening too -- I just think the color looks ... wrong ... in the game, somehow... I will admit that in that longer list I posted nostalgia and being used to how a older game works and not liking the changes they make (better or worse) both definitely play roles and have little to do with the overall quality, just the quality level I give it... but to me that matters. Everyone does this...
My point is that better graphics are a factor, but probably the least important one when you're comparing games like this. That is, except for 2d vs 3d. That graphical change has massive gameplay implications... but within one of the two subcategories? No, stuff like "gameplay" matters a whole lot more.
Oh yeah, another comment. You are basing your logic on flawed arguements, Weltall and OB1! I mean... HOW OFTEN DOES A REMAKE NOT CHANGE THE GAME AS WELL AS THE GRAPHICS? Yeah, just about never. And often you LIKED how it worked in the original version and see the added stuff in the remake as just messing up a great game... or in a sequel with better graphics they greatly change the gameplay system (or make a whole lot of smaller adjustments that have the effect of changing gameplay a lot, like each Civ game) and you like the old one better, etc...
It is pretty rare that they just boost the graphics. Like Mario Allstars. And as I said even there there are very legitimate reasons to like the originals...
Some very good examples of that would probably be Jedi Knight/Mysteries of the Sith vs. Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, or Civilization vs Civilization II vs Civilization III, or Extreme-G 2 vs Extreme-G 3. I don't like the way they changed those serieses in their "improved" newer games, darnit!
Nostalgia definitely plays a role... for SMB especially. I just don't feel the same about the SNES one, while the NES version definitely bring back memories. Thus I think the NES version is definitely better. Link's Awakening too -- I just think the color looks ... wrong ... in the game, somehow... I will admit that in that longer list I posted nostalgia and being used to how a older game works and not liking the changes they make (better or worse) both definitely play roles and have little to do with the overall quality, just the quality level I give it... but to me that matters. Everyone does this...
My point is that better graphics are a factor, but probably the least important one when you're comparing games like this. That is, except for 2d vs 3d. That graphical change has massive gameplay implications... but within one of the two subcategories? No, stuff like "gameplay" matters a whole lot more.
Oh yeah, another comment. You are basing your logic on flawed arguements, Weltall and OB1! I mean... HOW OFTEN DOES A REMAKE NOT CHANGE THE GAME AS WELL AS THE GRAPHICS? Yeah, just about never. And often you LIKED how it worked in the original version and see the added stuff in the remake as just messing up a great game... or in a sequel with better graphics they greatly change the gameplay system (or make a whole lot of smaller adjustments that have the effect of changing gameplay a lot, like each Civ game) and you like the old one better, etc...
It is pretty rare that they just boost the graphics. Like Mario Allstars. And as I said even there there are very legitimate reasons to like the originals...
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