25th January 2004, 8:27 PM
A Black Falcon Wrote:See the difference is that there is solid evidence behind the things in your little list here.
anti-everything improving poverty related
tax policy, corporate tax breaks, corporations writing laws in special meetings with administration officials (like the energy industry for instance), corporate giveaways, ex-CEOs in high office, major environmental law rollbacks (helping corporations), etc, etc, etc
anti-AA, anti-poverty programs, serious tax cuts on the poor
anti-immigration policy
just plain hatred
anti-gay rights, hatred/fear
anti-reproductive rights
more hatred
4. if you could you would, and are trying your best to get rid of all those silly environmental laws that stop you. There's a reason that this administration has been called the worst environmentally in an extremely long time...
5. Again you would if you could, but can't right now because the troops are tied down in Iraq... which of course was a step on that path.
There are a lot of assumptions in there that are simply untrue. Being anti-immigration isn't hating Mexicans. Being anti-AA isn't hating Blacks. Respecting the rights of unborn children isn't hating women.
So no. Your conspiracy theories are just plain wacky lies.
Quote:The existing system is badly flawed and more government control and coverage is desperately needed. See, unlike you I think that when given a chance the government can do decent work... and as for "crippling recearch", they'd have more than enough money if they didn't spend such insane amounts advertising.
You do think that. It just so rarely happens that I don't understand why.
And, you have to advertise. That's an integral part of business, of making money. Not that you'd know that.
Quote:The Bush Administration's policy is "whatever a corporation wants, it gets" -- at least as long as it's a conservatively-run one...
How is this any different from liberal tax breaks to 'non-profit organizations' that are slanted to the left, or outright liberal activist groups?
Quote:Cutting taxes on the poorer groups (or getting rid of them alltogether) and coorspondingly raising them on high incomes would be a great idea.
Sure it would. Poor people would be DYING to get out of poverty so they can start paying taxes! What an incentive!
This is cardinal proof of the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals want to make poor people happy. Conservatives want to make poor people not be poor.
Making poverty enjoyable and bearable will not end it. You have to kill poverty, by hard work and investment. Of course, such ideas are alien to liberals, who are headed by rich people and who want to give everyone else's money away to the poor.
Some charity. Why are there rich liberals, anyway? Obviously they don't mind it that much. It's only rich conservatives that are evil, I guess.
Quote:A vast majority definitely lived in southern states...
No shit!
Quote:The flat tax. Blatant and barely-concealed attempt to dramatically lower taxes on the rich even MORE and raise taxes on the poor. Very, very bad idea.
Wow. Suddenly, the liberal is AGAINST fairness! Hilarious! You act as though the rich don't already pay inordinately high taxes and the poor as often as not pay inordinately little!
Every post you make, you get just a little more out of this world. We ought to stop this soon.
Quote:So because 260 million have some kind of coverage the 40 that don't don't matter. No way. No one is unimportant.
No, but when 80% have it and 20% don't, I don't think it constitutes being considered a crisis. Certainly not one worth destroying our economy by instituting a failed socialist concept.
Quote:For one thing not really far away so they don't spend lots of time in transit, especially if they're single parents with young kids... that would be really, really hard on their children...
Because I see you keep continually ignoring the part of my idea where I say that
welfare is okay as a supplement to working people, not as a sole source of income.
I hope that issue is resolved. As for those who use their inability to keep their legs closed as an excuse for not working:
Deal with it. Or starve. I don't fucking care anymore. Give your kids up for adoption if you can't raise them. Stop making them if you can't raise them, because I shouldn't have to pay for that. One of the most widespread and dispicable abuses of the welfare system is people who kept having babies to ensure continued welfare support.
Quote:Fundamental disagreement. The only way to improve things is to make the welfare system bigger. Regulate it well and reduce waste? Fine. But I do not think that there are nearly as large amounts of it as you imply.
Wait a second. It's a total failure. How in the bleeding hell is making it BIGGER going to help it?
Since you used cancer as an allusion once, I will too: What you're saying is akin to telling someone that the only way they'll get better is to let their tumor grow even more!
Making that decrepit monster of a mistake larger is the very last thing we should EVER do. It's ruined enough people already. It needs to get SMALLER.
Ah God, your insanity is making me want to scream.
Oh yes, yet another post without proof. I won't stop reminding you until you pony it up. While you're at it, add in how enlarging the welfare monster will bring people out of poverty. That ought to be good.
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