Why liberals should never be in power...

[A Black Falcon]

I have no more hatred for poor than you do for the rich. Take that for what you will.

The rich are rich and thus have more than enough and should be giving far more back to society than the people lower down.

Wow, I had no idea how right I was. :|

On my mom's side going back to my grandparent's generation I can think of five college professors... one's pretty strongly right-wing, though. The rest of the family doesn't talk about politics with them. :)

Because I asked for it. And I'd refute it if I found it lacking. That's how debate works.

Those are good sites. Not what you asked for, exactly, but good liberal sites with lots of stuff on them that proves how idiotic Bush and his administration are.

In the south, yes. The south is just one part of America. Hell, there were blacks ELECTED before the movement.

Most blacks live in the south...

Don't say what you can't prove PART IV.

It is impossible to prove this to you. I know I've found good things to say before and you've never listened for a second so why bother again?

I don't care if the rich pay less. Why should I? As long as I'm not paying more, I'm fine with it.

You're telling me the Republicans don't care about the middle class because they didn't cut our taxes as hard, but you expect me to believe liberals care about us because they want to RAISE taxes? To pay for things that don't benefit us to boot?

Wow. That's just insane.

You should care that they pay less because it means you pay more. SOMEONE has to pay. And yes, the Republicans do not, never did, and never will care about anyone other than the rich. It's been their position ever since soon after they were founded and still is.

And there are more things than taxes. Schools, for instance. Science. Health insurance. Etc. If taxes are higher it means we can better fund such essential programs as those, that always get cut under Republican administrations...

I'll bet that there are plenty of people out there who if they really thought about it would realize that if they paid more taxes, but got free (or cheaper, as is much more realistic in the short term) health insurance in return (or their employer got breaks to get them to give their employees better coverage, especially in small businesses which are getting hit really, really hard by health and accident insurance costs), that they'd be getting a very good deal? Especially if it came with actually good education improvement too...

Very rare? So that means my parents must be fucking geniuses. I don't give them enough credit.

And a little something else: Most people aren't poor. Percentage-wise, the poor are not that large a group. And most of those people aren't in dire straits anyway. Many are skirting the so-called poverty line. And imagine this, many people do just fine under the poverty level. They don't have the nicest clothes and the newest toys but they are well-fed and have adequate shelter.

Remember that money can't buy happiness.

As I've said before, the definition of "poor" is innaccurate and misleading...

They were tried. Some have been given as long as seventy years to work. They worked at first. They don't now.

And, yet again, how does welfare end poverty? Has it ever ended poverty for anyone?

Instead of coming up with witless responses to every little thing I say, you could focus all your boundless posting energy onto that one topic.

There is no way to end poverty completely... that isn't really a realistic goal... but we need to make it not as bad and make it easier for poor people to get out of poverty. Making them do it themselves does not do that, since most are unable to even begin...

And obviously welfare has helped people out of poverty. It helps you not completely fall apart while you try to improve your life... yes, getting people off the welfare rolls is a good idea... but again, only when the jobs they are going to are actually good enough to support a person or a family adaquately. So many, probably most, of the lower-end jobs just don't do that...