Why liberals should never be in power...

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I'd say that that's a conservative site (or at least religious), but that article succeeds by not really saying which side is better but that both have flaws...

Yeah. It'd be like this thread, minus a lot of anger, plus a lot more reason.

And parents (erm, one a liberal college professor), and relatives (...most of whom are liberals too, and several college professors), and common sense...

Wow, I had no idea how right I was. :|

Either way I'd look harder if I didn't know you would never pay much attention to anything I found, so what's the point?

Because I asked for it. And I'd refute it if I found it lacking. That's how debate works.

http://www.thismodernworld.com/ - the This Modern World website, and liberal blog... :)

http://www.michaelmoore.com/ -- Bush's exemplary military record!

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And blocked in the South by Jim Crow until the Civil Rights Movement succeeded.

In the south, yes. The south is just one part of America. Hell, there were blacks ELECTED before the movement.

And yes, each generation is more tolerant than the one before it. It gives me hope that in the long run we'll get past the hatred people like you have for some groups... though things like despising poor people are unlikely to change.

I have no more hatred for poor than you do for the rich. Take that for what you will.

With our wide variety of social programs of course...

Don't say what you can't prove PART IV.

The middle class? All anyone needs to do to know the Republicans aren't for them is look at their tax bill. Maybe Bush's tax cuts cut a couple hundred dollars. Then look at the tax bill of the top 5% and see how it was cut by thousands and thousands, and had a huge percentage drop.

I don't care if the rich pay less. Why should I? As long as I'm not paying more, I'm fine with it.

You're telling me the Republicans don't care about the middle class because they didn't cut our taxes as hard, but you expect me to believe liberals care about us because they want to RAISE taxes? To pay for things that don't benefit us to boot?

Wow. That's just insane.

If the tax burden was fair it would definitely help the middle class... same with health care. A lot of people either don't have any or have poor coverage, and we desperately need to improve that by increasing the amount of health care paid for by the government. This would be a huge help for everyone, from the uninsured to small business owners...

Everyone? You forget that most people do have insurance, I suppose.

Oh, and so your family got out. It does happen sometimes. Just very rarely, especially when you consider how many people are poor. The "we got out so anyone could" fallacy has been one of conservatism's biggest fallacies about poverty for centuries now...

Very rare? So that means my parents must be fucking geniuses. I don't give them enough credit.

And a little something else: Most people aren't poor. Percentage-wise, the poor are not that large a group. And most of those people aren't in dire straits anyway. Many are skirting the so-called poverty line. And imagine this, many people do just fine under the poverty level. They don't have the nicest clothes and the newest toys but they are well-fed and have adequate shelter.

Remember that money can't buy happiness.

Absolutely not. If social programs had really been tried, and had been given the time to work, this whole thing might have either been avoided or wouldn't have been as big... now I know that not everyone will escape poverty, but we should try as hard as we can to go for that goal.

They were tried. Some have been given as long as seventy years to work. They worked at first. They don't now.

And, yet again, how does welfare end poverty? Has it ever ended poverty for anyone?

Instead of coming up with witless responses to every little thing I say, you could focus all your boundless posting energy onto that one topic.