24th January 2004, 10:14 AM
Quote:What a stupid thing to say. You're a lily-white liberal college boy in Maine. What the hell do you know about how blacks and hispanics 'suffer'? How often do you even SEE blacks and hispanics up there?
3% of the Maine population is minorities. However, it's a poor (and rural) state and there are a lot of poor white people...
Quote:Yes, blacks are near the bottom, and it's your failed social experiments responsible for it. You people have transformed blacks into the ultimate victim race, you have sapped their will to achieve, and you constantly bombard them with lies and free money to keep their loyalty. Blacks as a people are selling their souls to you people, and that's why after all these years of Affirmative Action, black culture is very distinct but also very corrupt and ruined. Back in the Civil rights era, blacks as a whole were industrious, hard-working people who wanted to better themselves. Now, the current generation commercially glorifies criminal behavior and degeneracy. They have completely forgotten what their fathers and grandfathers struggled for, and now they idolize glamour thugs who make millions of dollars making songs about drugs, murder, and sex. This has helped ruin black families (how many still have two parents?), black culture, and black life. As standards of living increased, the new generation of Americans are FAR more tolerant, far less racist than previous. Jobs and educations are easier to get than ever, yet blacks are even WORSE off now than forty years ago. Your social programs are the very definition of the word 'failure'. Congratulations, you stole their souls.
And you have no one to thank but yourselves for this.
Blaming current black culture on social programs is just so utterly idiotic that there isn't much I can say... the two have nothing in common. And programs like AA are the very things that if allowed to work as they should will eventually help blacks out of their current condition. Doing nothing and letting them suffer is cruel and it is prototypical conservativism that wants the people on the bottom to suffer. That is such an immoral position that I can't even begin to say how wrong it is! Helping poor and disadvantaged groups is the only way we can get it so that eventually they are not poor or disadvantaged anymore. Nothing else will actually help them.
Quote:If there was any legislation at all, it was weak and unenforced. Whatever there might have been didn't even begin to compare with the monster we have on our hands today for blacks and hispanics. Discrimination happened all the time. But still, these people overcame their obstancles and now have none. They assimilated. They don't have ethnic distinctions anymore.
If liberals had gotten an early start and told these people they were victims and that their ethnicity was a free ticket to all sorts of legal advantages, Italians, Irish, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Indians, all these groups would be in the same bad position you put blacks in today.
Liberals paved the road to hell with their supposedly good (but equally self-serving) intentions. The old sayings are true.
I make a new point and you ignore it and repeat yourself... typical.
So I'll repeat mine.
Quote:So because in the past we never could cure cancer I guess we shouldn't allow chemotherapy because before people just had to tough it out.
I think that sums up why your "it was fine before" arguement is total idiocy.
Hispanics and Blacks, again, are quite different. Hispanics are indeed in the 'latest opressed immigrant' group like Irish were at one point, or Chinese, or myriad other groups. Given enough time they probably will Americanize and blend in as well as a group that has a distinct identity (and isn't all white) can... but Blacks? They've been here since the beginning and on the bottom the whole time. It's in the interest of conservatives like you to keep them there, so you try to kill all the programs that might get them out. Simple.