Combat Ranting (formerly known as Famicom Mini)

[Weltall]

I dismiss everything the Heritage Foundation says. Just like you probably did with things like that Carnegie Peace Institute study of how the Bush Administration lied and exaggerated its way into war...

And I said I don't know what they would think of SSI/Medicade/Medicare because such ideas really didn't exist back then. It's kind of hard to predict such things... but as I said you also need to consider how the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative" are very different now from what they were then.

But if you support taxation and a strong national government... but I don't know because obviously medicine as we know it today didn't exactly exist then either.

I would think that if someone made exaggerated claims while using Census Bureau information as a source, certainly someone would have noticed. You're making the judgement that the article is totally false, you claim it's all lies.

Prove it. And I don't want to hear excuses. It makes perfect sense and you claim it's malarkey. So I want you to show me proof that poor people are significantly worse off than this study says, as that is what you are claiming. Don't disappoint me please, you always choke when I make a challenge like this to you, because it seems like there is never any proof to substantiate your claims.

Also, the definition of 'liberal' and 'conservative' has always been the same. The issues they have stood for are what has changed.

As for whether they'd understand the concept, you'd have to put it to them in terms they'd understand; "Do you support the concept of using large amounts of tax revenue to give free money to poor people, requiring little or nothing in return from them".

I'd guarantee they wouldn't. It's a ridiculous idea. The greatest nation in the history of the world wasn't created by idiots.