24th January 2004, 4:30 PM
Quote:So how does that give you better insight into the 'suffering' of black people?
Didn't say it did. And anyway it's not like I'm the one coming up with these ideas...
Quote:This is hilarious shit. You are so not on planet earth.
The fact that black culture's decline started after the civil rights movement is no coincidence. But don't let the facts distract you from your little dreamworld. I suppose you just missed the whole part about the myriad of ethnic groups that thrived despite not having affirmative action. Hell, it seems like only those that DO benefit from it are bad and getting worse.
I won't bother trying to dissuade you from delusions you believe so ardently... sure black culture has decayed in recent years (especially the last ten or so, with gangster rap), but what are these other groups that are down? American Indians? No, they're about the same as they've been for quite some time... but blame that on the rappers who invented this stuff... once it gets out there it starts to influence people, but it had to come from somewhere. And blaming it on welfare is insane. For one thing before the Civil Rights movement none of this could have happened... blacks wouldn't be allowed to do things like they are...
Quote:I ignored that point. It was so stupid that it didn't warrant a response. It still doesn't.
It's a great proof for why you are deluded!
Quote:The only thing it sums up is how stupid it is to compare racial relations to cancer. But I'll play your game.
Affirmative action is supposed to be a cure but in the end makes things worse. Ethnic groups achieved more success without it than with. Again, I provided several good examples of this.
Cancer was just an example I came up with when I was writing... I could have used just about anything and had it make just as much sense... because by the means I can see, like cancer treatment, welfare and affirmative action and other programs for the disadvantaged are proving a lot of good...
And those ethnic groups that got over it took a LONG time to get over it. The Chineese, Irish... they were persecuted for generations! It is insane to say that that was okay. It was absolutely and totally not okay. Just like the current hatred of hispanics is not okay. Condoning that kind of behavior is, I'd say, racist.
Quote:This is crazy. What gain would I have keeping blacks poor? Who could possibly gain from that?
Liberals.
Keeping blacks poor and destitute ensures that liberals have a very safe voter base. To keep them poor, they create social programs, disguise them as beneficial, and the scam plays on. Blacks stay poor, Liberals not only have a loyal fanbase but something to blame Conservatives on.
In our last argument you said the same bullshit, that conservatives wanted to keep the poor poor. I asked you to show me how welfare made poor people stop being poor. You never provided me this information.
Now, I show you how assimilation benefits ethnic groups better than affirmative action has. You say I'm wrong. So, in what will almost certainly prove futile, I ask you to prove how Affirmative action helps minorities become equal moreso than the non-intrusive, non-discriminatory assimilation methods that brought practically every ethnic group that isn't black or hispanic to equality.
I know you won't do it, I just challenge you like this because your refusal to follow up shows that your words are meaningless lies.
Your insane consiracy theories sound more crazy every time you repeat them, you know... and the idea that by not helping people that will suffer badly and needlessly you are helping them is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard.