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    6th February 2003, 10:03 PM
    When I say it's a choice, I don't mean you wake up one day and you decide you're gay... though that is very possible, I'm sure it's rare in the extreme. But it is a choice you make. You are NOT born gay. You are born ambiguous. It is your life experiences as a child and a teenager that lead you to your choice. There is no evidence of homosexuality being genetic that I've ever seen, and while you're telling me to prove common sense, you continue to make that claim and show no proof whatsoever. You are no more born gay than you are born a Pepsi drinker or a Dallas Cowboys fan or a smoker or a Christian. Those decisions, not as profound as sexuality but similar in basics, are decisions a person makes in life. Rarely are they sudden, but they are decisions. No one is born with genes telling them what to drink, what team to like, whether to smoke or what religion to follow. Those are not genetic. And there are no genes that tell you what gender you want to screw. Sure, sexual urges are natural, and instintive. But, all they are for YEARS are raw sexual urges with no focus. You are born wanting to have sex, but not knowing what to have sex with. THAT is what you choose. It's like fear. Fear is definitely a human instinct, but while you have fear as an instinct, you aren't born knowing what to be afraid of. Your fears in life are learned, and then you eventually decide what to be afraid of and what not to be afraid of (and often times as you grow out of childhood, you decide some things that scare you don't scare you anymore). Humans are born with instinct and it's life experience that shapes these instincts into more complex forms, it's what changes instinctive fear into perhaps fear of the dark. And it's what changes instinctive sexual urges into homosexual urges.

    Again, this is not only psychology in it's most basic form, it's common sense. You can cry genetics, but I'm of the school of people taking responsibility for the actions they choose.

    Now, as for special rights? No, I don't think sexual preference should be protected against job applications. For one thing, it should NEVER BE AN ISSUE. And usually, when you apply for a job, the interviewer does not know you, and therefore, unless you go to great lengths to make it apparent, does not know if you're gay or not. I also do not think religion should ever be an issue on the same level (and it rarely is), but while the first amendment states that one cannot persecute another for his religious beliefs, it states no protection for sexual preference. Of course, if a gay man is smart, he won't make an issue of being gay at work, for not only does your sex life have no business at work no matter what you are, if you make an issue of being gay, you basically deserve what you get. Employers do not ask your sexual preference on a job application, so the only way they can know it is if you freely tell them. So no, sexual preference should not be a protection against losing a job... because then whenever a gay man or woman gets fired, all they have to do is claim they're being discriminated against, and bam, employers are hit with thousands of discrimination suits. You should not receive special protection because of a choice you make.
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