1st December 2003, 12:43 PM
Quote:You guys just aren't getting it. You keep saying that Nintendo is the biggest developer in the world or something, and therefore they should have every feature imaginable. It doesn't work that way. It has nothing to do with size. Having more people working on the game will not make it better or finish it faster. You can choose to believe that I might know what I'm talking about since this is what I do AND this is what other, much better and more experienced programmers also say, or you can ignore it and believe what you think is true even though it's not.
Like ABF said, you don't have to be an artist to be an art critic or a game designer to be a game critic. Weltall doesn't need to be a politician to say that Clinton should have done this or that, and the same with ABF and Bush.
Now to correct ABF, I haven't taken many programming classes. He confused that with game art classes. However, I have been making games from scratch with a friend of mine who does all of the programming, and I'm very well aware of how difficult it is. Well, our main problem right now is with getting the animation system and collision detection to work well, but we've had some AI headaches in the past and I'm sure we will again very soon.
Quote:This started off because I was frustrated with ABF complaining about lazy programmers, and then I tried to explain that more programmers is not the answer. I'm not saying that Nintendo couldn't have done it, I'm saying that none of you know how to do it either so stop trying to pretend that you do. Your "solutions" are things that are covered and dismissed in the first week of any software engineering class. That's not something you would know, but when I try to explain it so you will understand you don't listen and just repeat the same nonsense. Never mind, I don't know why I bother. You are obviously right because you want to be, and it doesn't matter what anyone else says.
I don't understand this blind defending of Nintendo going on here. You, DJ, and Derek are all blindly defending Nintendo, hoping that if you close your eyes to the problem it will go away. Well guess what? That's not how it works. Right now you three are acting the exact same way that Nintendo is. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Don't keep up with the times!". Nintendo's first-party games have been seriously lacking in some now-important areas. Online play. Good bots. Good single-player modes for their multiplayer titles. And then of course overall polish for most of their games, although it's mainly just cosmetic stuff. Good FMV, voice acting, etc. No real effect on gameplay but precisely the kind of stuff that catches peoples' eyes when they walk through Best Buy and see videos on display.
And of course playing with friends is better than playing with bots, but you can't always have three other people over at your house when you feel like playing a round of Mario Kart of Perfect Dark.
But anyhow, the point I'm trying to make is that Nintendo added very little to the Mario Kart formula with DD. It's still a fun game, but this is what we waited seven years for?? They can't even keep up with Rare and Naughty Dog! No big single-player mode, no bots for battle mode. The excuse "they didn't have enough time" is a pathetic one. They had seven years to improve upon their last game. SEVEN YEARS!! If that's not enough time to come up with more ideas and add bigger and better features, then Nintendo needs some serious help.