17th November 2003, 2:47 PM
Quote:and (you repeat yourself)
Great rebuttal!
Quote:Wrong. In Mario Kart, you race, sure... but its DRAMATICALLY different. Totally different handling. Totally different speed. Track design. It has weapons. Etc, etc. Those make for a difference orders of magnitude greater than the one between Empire and Wars... no question there. I can't see how you could possibly think that Empire and Wars are as different as Mario Kart and Gran Turismo! The differences between MK and GT are enough for them to be in very different subgenres. Wars and Empire? The differences between them are no greater than between plenty of other strategy games that are put in the same genre, certainly! Far less than some, I'd certainly say (like how about Myth and Age of Empires are both RTSes, perhaps? Or how about F-Zero and Rush? Etc...).
"wrong". Again, great rebuttal!

No matter how many caps you use, the fact remains that MK, F-Zero, and Gran Turismo are all a part of the same genre and share more similarities with each other than Empire and Wars. Of course they're very different from each other, that only further proves my point. But they do share more similarities to each other than Empire and Famicom Wars. That is a fact.
Quote:Umm... so? I was comparing that to Wars' date of 1988, of course...
Gee, perhaps I said that because you mentioned the fact that Empire draws its ideas from old board games? Try thinking more, ABF. It might help.
Quote: I'd have mentioned the date of the first computer version of Empire, but I don't know when they did the PDP-11 version. I do know that that PC port you can download there is from 1983, though.
That would be fantastic if Empire were just like Famicom Wars. But sorry, it's not.