IBM making the X-Box 2 CPU?

[A Black Falcon]

Sarcastic? I really don't get you at all, OB1... do you live in some twisted place where you see insults around every corner or something? Its the only explanation I can think of...

I mean, your comment was irrelevant. ATI only helped make it? Huh? I mean... we aren't talking about the specifics of which dev team makes the product, we're talking about corporations and which ones will get the big win here! Why does whether ArtX or the main ATI team made the card matter at all? I just don't get why you think it does... or how you thought I was saying something else...

Oh, you were answering DJ's post? No, I didn't know that, and since it was after mine of course I'd think it was responding to mine... makes more sense then. But still...

I say "why does which team made it matter?'

You respond with "The X-Box GPU is just a GeForce while the Flipper is a unique chip!"

Seriously, we were NOT talking about the same topic. And since I made the thread... you were not talking about the right thing. Could you re-read the thread now and explain how you managed to mess that up? Its not obtuse about what I'm talking about!

And, of course, if you're going to compare the uniqueness of the Flipper vs the X-Box GPU (a completely different issue that I don't understand how you confused with the one I raised in my post)... you could at least be accurate and not call the X-Box GPU a GeForce3 when I know for a fact it is not.


Okay then... let's go back somewhat. :)

Here are my points

1)ATI technically did make the Flipper since they were the company that actually produced the chips and owns the company (and owned it before the release of the Cube) that developed the chip. Did they develop it? No. But they own it and built the physical chips.

2)NVidia made its chip itsself, making it as a better, specifically designed (single-chip) version of the GeForce. It isn't a off-the-shelf GeForce2 nor is it a straight GeForce3; its a unique chip that has a lot in common with those two but has enough unique things that it can't be called the same. Which is why its the NV25, not the NV20 like the GeForce2 or the NV30 like the GeForce3.

3)If ATI wins the X-Box and the NGC, it'll help its profits a lot... NVidia better hope that it takes a commanding lead in the PC market to try to keep up, and given the way things there are going now that doesn't look likely... right now ATI has the best board in the PC market, after all, and the GeForce has been playing catchup for a while now.