3rd November 2003, 8:39 PM
Quote:The fact you deny you have any problems is a large part of the problem.
Oh, and most people here seem to be able to understand me better than you do. That should tell you something...
"Most people'" being a funny Australian (you know I love you, Marky) and crazy DJ?

Quote:That statement I made is true. I say something, and then you take it to mean something... and then when I try to explain myself and say what I really meant a lot of the time you don't beleive me for quite some time, clinging to your (generally "insane") explanation for what I meant! Its crazy! And you do it all the time...
The fact that you have to explain and change your simple sentences over and over should tell you that you need to make more sense.
Quote:Now that just isn't true at all. I have been as reasonable as I possibly could... but you really press and it makes it hard when you constantly are misunderstanding me or making such extreme reactions to my statements... sure, you say "I don't realize how insane I sound"... but then why don't other people ever agree with you? Oh, on a few cases they have, but that's generally when they agree on your point about the topic, not about if I don't make sense...
And yes, I know you talk to me far more than anyone else... and yes, sometimes I don't state things as well as I could... even sometimes I can see how you would be confused. But as often as you are? No, I just don't get it at all... it takes like five times repeating the same thing in different words before you finally get it, too often...
It takes you five times to repeat the same thing because you make statements like "and you can't take from us the badness of the saying!!"!!
Quote:The question is this, will he admit that it wasn't ACTUALLY an insult? It's not quite like a murderer not thinking what they are doing is wrong, but more like a horse thinking the guy trying to ride it is actually trying to eat it. Oh, and let me make it clear that this I'm not trying to compare anyone's intelligence to that of a horse there.
What you said was an insult, but I'll forgive you since it's more annoying to argue about this then the original insult was.
Quote:It could be said that what someone makes of your words is more important than what you actually meant. OB1 obviously felt insulted by your conversations with ABF, you say that you didn't mean it that way, but does that change the fact that OB1 felt insulted? Let me do an example: Rush Limbaugh said that the liberal media wanted a black quarterback to succeed. Lots of people were insulted and angry by that because they thought he was being racist. He said that that wasn't what he was saying at all, but the damage had already been done. Similar in ways to what has happened here. Now, I won't harp on just you, though, OB1 HAS over-reacted here and he is willing to appologize if you and ABF do.
Good example.
Quote:*ignores GR's stupid conservative comments* Unless you really want to start an arguement about that?
DJ... I very much doubt that OB1'd ever admit ANYTHING. Haven't we all learned by now that he never admits the obvious even when clear proof is staring him in the face? I could be surprised and see him admit some things... but I VERY highly doubt it. Its just not like him to ever admit anything, infuriatingly enough.
And anyway, DJ... I can see how he could take comments that attack his opinions on the game that you say to me and not to him as bad. That makes sense to me. Okay, so you weren't trying to attack him... but shouldn't you know enough about OB1 by now to know that he doesn't like people not telling him things directly? Sure, you hate posting in these threads... but if you're going to tell me you should tell him too, if you're making arguements that attack his positions.
I present to you the ABF dictionary:
clear proof
1. Something that I (ABF) said and thought it sounded right, although it's usually just conjecture.
2. Something that might be right from a certain point of view.
Quote:I suppose I can see that, after all OB1 you did talk to GR about this instead of to us and said to him you would apologize about it, but not to us. Now I'm not saying I'm offended by it. Sometimes one just needs to get something off their chest and when doing it to the person actually involved isn't an option (for instance, you can't seem to get through to us, or at least it seemed that way to you), you have to talk about it with someone else.
So, I'm sorry if I offended you. Just let it be known that it wasn't anything that I actually intended to be offensive, and rest assured it'll happen again , well maybe not about your arguments.
I didn't talk to GR about anything. He came up with that completely on his own.