Hey Weltall...

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How odd... you seem to be on both sides or something...

You think it's odd because you see everything in black and white. To you it's either "it's only genetic and there's no way to cure it" or "it's their fault and gays are evil!". You refuse to listen to anyone else and instead prefer to stick to your very specific side. I'm open to suggestion, which is why I have no clear-cut side.

but some of what you say is just wrong. All people want to have children? Okay... that is quite possible. But if you are not attracted to people in the other gender doing it the "natural" way will never give them any pleasure... you cannot deny that! They probably in some way want children, but they don't want to have them heterosexually... can you tell the difference there? That's why I think they often adopt.

You misunderstood me. All people have the natural instinct to mate and produce offspring because that is the only way we can keep our species alive. I doubt that ever single human being wants to have children, but I am pretty damn certain that every single capable human being has the urge to have sex. If everyone was gay then there would be no next generation, and all beings would have ceased to exist at the very beginning of this planet's life. The key difference between the way us humans make children and the way every other living creatures does it is that love comes into play for us. When it's only animal instinct then you know it. You just want to fulfill that sexual desire. But love is a completely different thing. If the only thing you care about is bangin' another person then, well, your life is probably pretty empty. Love for another human being is a separate thing from pure animal lust. I don't think I have to explain that. Does that make sense to you?

Anyone who was gay and can turn straight in all probability was never really gay to begin with. That's what I think. It was probably just in their head... and that is a decided minority of homosexuals from all accounts I've ever seen.

How many gay people do you know? You're being a hypocrite right now, saying that one is only "truly" gay if it's completely genetic and unchangeable. I don't believe you honestly believe in that. Think about it for a moment.

Now this part I pretty much agree with. The only question is, 'how deep does homosexuality go'? If its as deep as studies like the one I linked seem to suggest I'm not so sure that drugs will help... it seems that its among our most basic areas, and is actually (at least in some cases) linked to our physical form (in specific the brain). Now of course we don't know any details of this yet... for a more complete analysis we'll have to wait quite some time. But genetic things are often not just treatable with drugs... sure, if we can lock it down maybe in the future with genetic engineering we could make people based on some blueprint (like in so many sci-fi stories), but can you 'treat' people with genetic flaws? It depends on the problem... in some cases yes and in others no. Homosexuality just seems to be too basic to be treatable, and most all rescearch I've seen supports that. At least at this point, who knows about the future...

I don't think that drugs will help in most cases, but I know for a fact that it is curable. Genetic disorders can be treated by means of therapy and/or serious mental solving. My brother Brian suffers from schizophrenia which he got from his mother (not my mother; we only share the same father). It came to him when he was in college and at age 40 he still suffers from it, but not nearly as much as he used to. He took medication for several years and it only temporarily helped him. The way he has been able to mend this mental illness is basically by sheer will-power. I won't get into the details of how he has been able to do this, but I can tell you that medication was not the answer. It's a mental illness that required serious "mental reorganization" as he likes to put it, and today he is better than he's been in decades. I saw this happen, and I saw one of my friends turn from gay to straight. Right now he (my formally-gay friend, not my brother Brian) is married to a wonderful woman and he couldn't be happier. Whenever he had doubts about his sexuality he didn't keep it a secret, so if he still had some of those feelings I would know about it.