20th October 2003, 1:52 PM
Quote:And honestly, I don't care if you don't believe in any of those "gay-turned-straight" stories. You've taken a side and no matter what you will stick to it. You don't care about the actual truth, just what you want to believe. Some gay people can turn straight, be that from taking therapy, medication, or whatever. But it is possible no matter what your stubborn mind thinks. This whole "but deep down they'll always feel that way" theory is complete bullshit. Human beings are meant to feel attracted towards the opposite sex so that they can mate and have children. Gay people cannot produce children, and almost all creatures on this planet have whatever sexual orientation it is that allows them to mate and produce offspring. That is the simple truth. So really, if you're going to use that "deep down inside" argument then you have to say that deep down inside all gay people must have at least some of that natural heterosexual inclination.
How odd... you seem to be on both sides or something... but some of what you say is just wrong. All people want to have children? Okay... that is quite possible. But if you are not attracted to people in the other gender doing it the "natural" way will never give them any pleasure... you cannot deny that! They probably in some way want children, but they don't want to have them heterosexually... can you tell the difference there? That's why I think they often adopt.
Anyone who was gay and can turn straight in all probablility was never really gay to begin with. That's what I think. It was probably just in their head... and that is a decided minority of homosexuals from all accounts I've ever seen.
Quote:Just like everything else in life, defects happen. Some people are born with mental illnesses, physical defects, etc. What makes homosexuality different? I'm not saying that gay people are bad or anything like that, just that their orientation is not natural and therefor a type of defect, for lack of a better word. I don't think of homosexuals any differently than I think of people with chemical inbalances (you know what I mean) or any other mental or physical defect. Most of us have some sort of defect that we were either born with or happened to get later on in life. Defects like severe social anxiety, bad eyesite, poor lungs etc. Some are more severe than others, and some can be cured, with different ways of curing them by different means (a person with some sort of axiety due to a chemical inbalance might be better off with therapy than drugs, for example). The main difference between those defects and homosexuality is that people with glasses or bad athsma won't be discriminated against or labeled as being "evil" by millions of people.
Now this part I pretty much agree with. The only question is, 'how deep does homosexuality go'? If its as deep as studies like the one I linked seem to suggest I'm not so sure that drugs will help... it seems that its among our most basic areas, and is actually (at least in some cases) linked to our physical form (in specific the brain). Now of course we don't know any details of this yet... for a more complete analysis we'll have to wait quite some time. But genetic things are often not just treatable with drugs... sure, if we can lock it down maybe in the future with genetic engineering we could make people based on some blueprint (like in so many sci-fi stories), but can you 'treat' people with genetic flaws? It depends on the problem... in some cases yes and in others no. Homosexuality just seems to be too basic to be treatable, and most all rescearch I've seen supports that. At least at this point, who knows about the future...