15th October 2003, 1:57 PM
Quote:I'm sorry, but what part of
Look, I'm all for making it VERY hard to obtain a gun legally. I steadfastly believe that only people who meet very certain criteria and have proper training and knowledge should ever own and carry a weapon.
do you not understand? What part of that translates to "abolish background checks" in OBSpeak? I'm against BANNING guns, but not background checks. Capiche?
What I'm saying is that the weapons already illegal aren't purchased legally. No background checks are performed on the buyers. Now, I know background checks help in that it forces criminals to resort to these methods to get a gun, but since the illegal methods are a lot easier than the legal methods, you can therefore, if you have a brain, see why background checks do not put much of a halt on violent crime, since a LOT of it in America is just an extension of other criminal activity, such as drugs.
Now perhaps--if there's a brain up there in your skull-- you could, in the future, actually READ my posts before you go off on your pro-gun rant. Here's what you responded to:
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I said: So they should just completely abolish all background checks and make it even easier for idiots to get guns? Don't you think it would be better to try harder to prevent criminals and the like from getting guns on the black market?
Then you said: Of course I do. I'm all for cracking down on the illegal arms trade, but I see no reason at all to deprive normal citizens of their right to bear arms, when many of them do so without incident. Now read this next line carefully because the immutable logic of it either escapes your comprehension or your notice:
BANNING LEGAL WEAPONS WILL NOT STOP SALES OF WEAPONS THAT ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL.
We clear on that? I hate repeating myself.
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Where in that post of mine did I suggest that all guns be banned? Pay attention next time, boy.
Quote:Cry me a river, Fauntleroy. I have no allegiance to a party, I think most Repubicans are too centrist and deferential to liberals. It's just that Republican ideals make sense to me.
Oh please, I don't know who you're trying to kid with that remark. You're the biggest, most extreme Republican I've ever known. Everything you say, everything you believe in, falls directly in line with what far-right conservative Republicans believe. Helping the poor is bad, the U.S. should not have good relations with the rest of the world, war is the only solution to anything, etc. Don't make me laugh, Ryan.