14th October 2003, 3:57 PM
I'd argue more... but "arguing" with Weltall about politics gets you about as far as arguing with a brick...
Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, et al, are bigoted, foaming-at-the-mouth, hatemongering idiots.
And as for gun-murder rates...
They are really high in the US, and we have many guns.
They are pretty low in Europe, and they have very few guns (though its been going up a bit in England, compared to levels here they have next to none...). They are similarly low in nearly gun-free Japan... and they are similarly low in Canada, a nation with many guns.
Now... are we the only nation with lots of gun violence? No. But there are a lot of nations out there that do a significantly better job than us.
"morality"? Sorry... I don't understand that arguement at all... by your bizarre standards most of the nations that have the low levels of gun violence are "less moral" ones, I'd think... or something, I don't get your arguement.
It is proven. Getting rid of guns reduces crime a lot of crime. Now, sure, it'd be better to do it like Canada and just have a society that just isn't as violent, but we don't have that... but of course that brings up more issues. We do have people who use guns for legitimate purposes, after all... in a perfect world I think that we'd have all handguns (most violence is handguns) and automatic guns and stuff banned, but people would be able to get guns for hunting if they pass the background check... I don't think we could ban those. Not without a more dramatic change in our society than is realistic.
Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, et al, are bigoted, foaming-at-the-mouth, hatemongering idiots.
And as for gun-murder rates...
They are really high in the US, and we have many guns.
They are pretty low in Europe, and they have very few guns (though its been going up a bit in England, compared to levels here they have next to none...). They are similarly low in nearly gun-free Japan... and they are similarly low in Canada, a nation with many guns.
Now... are we the only nation with lots of gun violence? No. But there are a lot of nations out there that do a significantly better job than us.
"morality"? Sorry... I don't understand that arguement at all... by your bizarre standards most of the nations that have the low levels of gun violence are "less moral" ones, I'd think... or something, I don't get your arguement.
It is proven. Getting rid of guns reduces crime a lot of crime. Now, sure, it'd be better to do it like Canada and just have a society that just isn't as violent, but we don't have that... but of course that brings up more issues. We do have people who use guns for legitimate purposes, after all... in a perfect world I think that we'd have all handguns (most violence is handguns) and automatic guns and stuff banned, but people would be able to get guns for hunting if they pass the background check... I don't think we could ban those. Not without a more dramatic change in our society than is realistic.