why are anti american hate monger so stupid?

[A Black Falcon]

There is no popular resistance in Iraq. There is nothing that even remotely resembles it.

As for Israel/Palestine, they will not accept us once it's settled, because they don't WANT it settled, nor do they even pretend to want it settled. They want Israel gone and they want to kill as many Jews as they can in the process. They will only accept us if we stand back and allow that to happen, and it's amazing how many people here actually like that idea. Their dislike of us is more fundamental than Israel, literally and figuratively: They hate us because we're not them. The Arab world hates us because they are a festering joke of a civilization and it just burns them that Western civilization (and of course, the US is Western Civilization incarnate) dominates the world to a degree that the Islamic Empires could only have dreamed of even at their peak. They're a childish, savage bunch of people, as a whole, and while that sounds like a gross generalization, once you realize that almost ALL of the world's major strife right now is taking place in the Middle East, it only rings truer. They'll come to accept us when and only when we conform to their backwards and insane ways of thinking and living, and God forbid that day ever comes.

No popular resistance? Totally wrong. Sure, the majority does think that all they've been through has been worth it, but a sizable group supports the resistance. All kinds of influences turn them against us... Shi'ite mullahs taking orders from Tehran, foreign Arab terrorists blowing things up and making the Iraqis angry at us for the security failures, our total lack of preparation for fixing the Iraqi power and water systems, etc, etc... yes, most think that it was worth it. But as I said, as time passes the number that hate us will steadily go up. It is ineviable, and with the way we are managing it now we are really asking for them to hate us...

As for Israel, sure, lots of them do want Israel destroyed, but not ALL. That is an overstatement, no question about it... and also, its mostly just Arabs that have the hatred because of that. Persians, Egyptians, Pakistanis, etc. don't have that same level of hatred because of it... they have other reasons to dislike us... but as for the Arabs, you are a fool. Yes, the Arab Empire has fallen and the American Empire rules now... but you think they hate us because of that? I doubt it. No. The root and the core of the hatred in the Arab world is Palestine. Without that they'd dislike us some, like the whole world does, maybe more than most because of the way they interpret Islam... but it wouldn't be anything close to the intense hatred of America and all things American that burns in the Islamic world these years. I'm sure that if the Israeli issue could go away it would be very, very significantly better...

Though, not if idiotic right-wing hatemongers (the American ones at least as much as the Arab ones) have their way, of course. None of THEM want anything resembling a popular understanding as your hateful comments make very clear.

Is the Arab world behind us, technologically and in thought? Yes, without a doubt. But does that mean they are stupid? No! It just means that they aren't progressing through the same order of societal progression that we have... it'll be quite interesting to see how the Islamic world adapts to the realities of modern times. They'll have to change... the question is how they will do it and not compromise their religion (something religious types like you should understand...).

Oh yeah, and it takes two sides to make peace. At this time neither Sharon and his hardline conservative party or the Palestinians want peace... I doubt it'll happen until new people come to power.

The administration most definitely expected this. It's the news media and people in general that expected it was to be a perfect clean sweep. I recall the adminstration saying countless times that it would be a long and wide effort to solve Saddam and Iraq. And for crying out loud, we still control the nation in almost complete totality and there is absolutely no viable threat to our soveriegnty. All that these attacks accomplish is making the spineless whiners of the left think they have a leg to stand on in criticizing the war. Again, show me any example in history where such a thing was attempted and accomplished with such fast victory and such a minute loss of life.

Burned out all the memories of everything the administration ever said before the war started, I see... hardly surprising. I doubt that trying to say that the obvious truth is true will work with you since it never does... but anyway.

The administration DID NOT see this coming. There is NO way to debate that. Why?

They said that by the end of the year, maybe even by fall, there might be 70 or 80,000 US troops in Iraq. There will be 130,000.

They said that the Iraqis would come out in droves upon our victory and cheer us, the liberators. It didn't happen -- the Iraqi reaction was very slow and cautious, and less receptive than the blind people in the administration thought.

Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc... I'll list more later...

Long and wide effort? Sorry, but most of those comments came well after the war... and before it they meant it in a totally different and much more limited sense.

We control the nation? Of course! No threat to our control? I agree there too, we are in control and that isn't changing anytime soon... though I can't see how those facts are relevant to the points I've made...

Do the attacks say that the Iraqi people, a majority of them, want us to leave now? No. They do not. But you COMPLETELY MISSED MY POINT! Completely 100% missed what I was saying... I didn't say that we should leave soon! I didn't say that we should pull out! I didn't say that the Iraqis could throw us out! None of that is true! As I said now that we are in we are in...

Oh, I recommend you go back and read that really long post of mine. Really.

Just go back and read what I actually said... because these comments just don't make sense in comparison...