31st January 2003, 7:08 PM
Why do you keep insisting on that? Trying to answer that to your satisfaction would be in itsself a victory for you -- I'd have to be admitting that the fetus before its born is pretty much the same as the baby is after its born. Which as I said isn't true... Oh, and once its born it IS different. While it definitely still is dependant, it isn't dependant on the mother in specific...
And its just a strange argument! 'Why isn't it OK to kill babies"? Come ON! You know why -- they are humans who have been born and are alive, so you can't kill them. Fetuses don't fit that classification.
Especially not the vast majority of abortions which are done early (or inthe middle) in pregnancy... Though, no matter what you may say about it being arbitrary, the fact is (legally at the very least, but more than that too) that fetuses are not human beings. The radical right, including our president, really wants them classified as such to try to destroy abortion in this country, but they aren't. And I REALLY hope that the Supreme Court doesn't fall into radical hands and destroy this... its hard enough as it is to keep this right around with people like you here...
Also... what about the rest of my post? I did write 3 more paragraphs which you don't respond to... Also. One more thing. Your argument really is based on the idea that abortions are done late in pregnancy, when they are closer to being like humans. Most, as I said, aren't done then and are done MUCH sooner-- FAR before the fetus begins to resemble a human (as opposed to any number of other animals)... late-term abortions are, again as I said, pretty rare... probably usually done for health reasons...
And its just a strange argument! 'Why isn't it OK to kill babies"? Come ON! You know why -- they are humans who have been born and are alive, so you can't kill them. Fetuses don't fit that classification.
Especially not the vast majority of abortions which are done early (or inthe middle) in pregnancy... Though, no matter what you may say about it being arbitrary, the fact is (legally at the very least, but more than that too) that fetuses are not human beings. The radical right, including our president, really wants them classified as such to try to destroy abortion in this country, but they aren't. And I REALLY hope that the Supreme Court doesn't fall into radical hands and destroy this... its hard enough as it is to keep this right around with people like you here...
Also... what about the rest of my post? I did write 3 more paragraphs which you don't respond to... Also. One more thing. Your argument really is based on the idea that abortions are done late in pregnancy, when they are closer to being like humans. Most, as I said, aren't done then and are done MUCH sooner-- FAR before the fetus begins to resemble a human (as opposed to any number of other animals)... late-term abortions are, again as I said, pretty rare... probably usually done for health reasons...