22nd September 2003, 2:50 PM
Quote:Not really, I said the main audience is clearly kids but there is definitely a older market there too. Not by any means anywhere near as big as the kids' market, but it does exist.
Mainly just the Nintendo faithful.
Quote:Only on some things. Nintendo clearly has a LOT of work to do to fix their marketing, public image, and system design issues... but they are in a better situation here than they were for the GC or N64, by far... with the N64 they had a chance but blew it, but with the Cube it was just too little too late. With this new generation of portables they haven't fallen behind yet... so they still have a chance. Yes, they could get too arrogant, delay it a year, and release a vastly underpowered system that the third parties will ignore... but at this point I think Nintendo has learned its lesson, or at least it's learned some lessons.
I hope that's true but I'm not going to get my hopes up. Better to be pleasantly surprised than let down, I say.
Quote:Good point, but at least they finally released it, something they never did on the NES or SNES...
Yeah they gradually get smarter and smarter but it takes them soooo long. They still haven't announced any plans to release EB1&2 or the superb-looking Magical Vacation(which has been out for over a year in Japan) in the states. Nintendo is too afraid of taking risks.
Quote:I don't think Nintendo cares much that they are in last, so it wasn't a bad move at all...
You don't think they care?

Quote:It wasn't that dramatic. The Genesis won decisively in the early years in the US... it was only in the last years of the 16 bit generation that Nintendo caught them, and even then they barely pulled off a victory from what I remember... Nintendo did win worldwide, but that was mostly because of how badly the Genesis failed in Japan.
The Genesis was never far ahead of the SNES in terms of sales. When Mortal Kombat came out and Nintendo decided to edit their version of the game Sega certainly got a nice boost, but near the end of the SNES' life Nintendo was definitely on top. Sega's downfall began with the Sega CD.
Quote:But much bigger than Gamecube. And among children, its probably almost as big as Playstation...
Well the Gamecube name doesn't mean much, it's 'Nintendo' that sells systems.
The Gameboy name is probably almost as big as the Playstation name among children, but that's not the largest percentage of the video game market. Adults buy the most games now, and if Nintendo doesn't aggressively target their next handheld towards adults then they're gonna be in big trouble.
Quote:Sure, it'll sell a lot of systems, but while Nintendo is down in the overall market they aren't out. And there IS a point to the thing that the PSP isn't aiming at GB owners much... it is some, but not a lot. At least not for quite some time after its release... not with the much older average-gamer focus and mass-market approach...
Yes, the Playstation name will win it many converts. True. And it might do quite well because of that name, sure... but you just rule out Nintendo more than you should.
The PSP is going to be successful because Sony will be targeting the PSP towards adults and the mainstream, the same thing they did with the PSX and PS2. Don't forget that kids also love the Playstation because kids like to play the same things that their older siblings/role models play. Although I doubt that the PSP will sell as many units to kids as the GBA since it will be a lot more expensive than the GBA.
If Nintendo continues to target children but also adults then they have a good change of staying at #1 in the handheld market. They've been trying that with the Gamecube but with very little success, so I don't know if they'll be able to pull it off. Of course they didn't try to target adults until later on in the GC's life so it was a bit too late, but you know...