17th September 2003, 1:08 PM
All the chatlogs I've got with Dj are most all serious... because its just more interesting to discuss things seriously!
And OB1... no, I'd hardly say that reacting badly when you say "I can never trust anything DJ has ever said" is "taking it to seriously"! That's a major accusation... and just not called for... of course it deserves a reaction!
Next... why does everyone think its so funny to watch me and OB1 debate? I don't really see that at all... sure, most of the subjects are almost wholly subjective and yet we debate them anyway... but oh well, I see nothing wrong with arguing about points of view. :)
Also... you use the abortion debate as an example, of all things? The only thing I'd use that as an example of is "what you get when you argue about a subject where neither side can even agree on the terms of the arguement so it very quickly devolves into circular yelling"... that's just about the worst and least successful (as a actual debate) that we've ever had... your question, if I remember it, seemed innocent on the surface but the very act of me answering it required me to admit that the other side is right! No way would I do that!
Also... we sometimes DO end our debates with a resolution and not just 'we're tired of arguing now'... sure, the latter is common, but its not like we never get anywhere...
Also, you just wouldn't know about how much logic is involved. You are NEVER there! You never read the actual arguements! How in the world can you judge it without much of any basis to judge it on!
And finally... debates are always better with more people involved. It helps keep them from just going to 'this is right, no this is, no this is' in circles since there are more points of view... one big reason that many of our debages go that way is BECAUSE no one else is there... but that fact makes a lot of you stay away... its a viscious circle that I don't see a way out of, unfortunately. :(
And OB1... no, I'd hardly say that reacting badly when you say "I can never trust anything DJ has ever said" is "taking it to seriously"! That's a major accusation... and just not called for... of course it deserves a reaction!
Next... why does everyone think its so funny to watch me and OB1 debate? I don't really see that at all... sure, most of the subjects are almost wholly subjective and yet we debate them anyway... but oh well, I see nothing wrong with arguing about points of view. :)
Also... you use the abortion debate as an example, of all things? The only thing I'd use that as an example of is "what you get when you argue about a subject where neither side can even agree on the terms of the arguement so it very quickly devolves into circular yelling"... that's just about the worst and least successful (as a actual debate) that we've ever had... your question, if I remember it, seemed innocent on the surface but the very act of me answering it required me to admit that the other side is right! No way would I do that!
Also... we sometimes DO end our debates with a resolution and not just 'we're tired of arguing now'... sure, the latter is common, but its not like we never get anywhere...
Also, you just wouldn't know about how much logic is involved. You are NEVER there! You never read the actual arguements! How in the world can you judge it without much of any basis to judge it on!
And finally... debates are always better with more people involved. It helps keep them from just going to 'this is right, no this is, no this is' in circles since there are more points of view... one big reason that many of our debages go that way is BECAUSE no one else is there... but that fact makes a lot of you stay away... its a viscious circle that I don't see a way out of, unfortunately. :(