Imaginary games that you plan on getting (in your mind) this year

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But I didn't say that, and never implied it! I just said that lots of people like space sims!

I bet.

Okay, its a dumb point. But its still true.

What I said is also true.

Since 1996 isn't long enough?

I'm not talking about mainly just playing one series for a long time, I'm talking about playing many games in the genre for more than two hours each.

Okay, you are right -- I said that it was by the Wing Commander team and was wrong, it wasn't, it was by the Privateer team. But my point still stands... as in, its in the same tradition and the combat is a decendant of those games...

So they can't make better combat systems as they improve as developers?

Your claims you like this genre seem ... doubtful ... if you dislike the cornerstones of the genre!

I like the genre for different reasons, but it wasn't really until Freespace and Freelancer that I started to truly like the combat.

Examples of how it radically alters the genre. And I seem to remember that the game does have a way of tracking some enemies who aren't on the screen, I think...

Oh, one other thing. The third-person viewpoint. That is at least as important as any of those other main factors for why it doesn't work as well... third person is just wrong on so many levels for anything even pretending some kind of immersion!

There is a way of tracking enemies but it's not nearly as easy as using a radar, but works remarkably well.

And you can change the perspective with a simple button press! You really didn't play the game, did you??

Limited??? No, I think it would have made it so much more fun... that and a good in-cockpit viewpoint...

There's no way you would have been able to switch between flying and using the on-screen display (which could only be done with a mouse) with a joystick. And then what about the side burners (strafing) and sliding? Definitely would not work with a joystick, which is why the developers made it a keyboard-and-mouse-only game.

And again, there IS a cockpit view, which you would have noticed had you actually played the game for more than a few moments!

Sorry. You are wrong. Try reading this...

http://pc.ign.com/articles/387/387303p3.html

*tsk tsk tsk*

ABF, that review is from Ivan Sulic, the idiot who left the site because many readers bashed him for making such stupid reviews, among other reasons.

I try not to grade others based on my opinions in these arguements... you do not.

You try not to grade others? What on earth are you talking about?

I pointed out that you're a hypocrite, which you are.

That's exactly what I said, if you read my post!

Yeah, see how easy it is for me to do the same to you! I was showing how much of a hypocrite you are!!

If I hadn't played the games, maybe... but I have! Less than you... yes, for many of the games. But I HAVE played them.

Very little of, sure.

I somehow doubt that IGN and Gamespot stopped after a few hours... sorry, but NO. There is just no sane way to say that Freelancer has deeper combat than mainline space sims.

Sorry, but YES. I'm talking about the main combat here, not just power management. Stuff like X-Wing and WC have very, very simple combat. There's accelerate, brake, turn, and shoot.

I haven't played either in a long time and never played them for that long, so I can't really comment.

You shouldn't even be commenting on anything in this thread.

More knowledge with some games does not make you so vastly more qualified that my arguements aren't reasonable. I know that with plenty of other games I have far more experience than you...

When I know a lot about the topic we're arguing about and you don't, so that most certainly DOES make me more "qualified" than you.

The thing you quoted never referred to Freelancer though...

Yeah it did.

Of course Freelancer has missiles, I used them in the game! As for if it has a Missile Boat-type craft, I have absolutely no idea so I won't say one way or the other... all I was doing was saying that that's the part of the game I was in... and that I love the Missile Boat. Its my favorite Star Wars fighter in any of these games...

What?