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    7th August 2003, 8:49 AM
    First... yes, ASM, please stop. It is very painfully obvious that you have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about and it just makes you look more uninformed with every post.

    Now...

    Quote:No, I mean the Church of Constantinople. There is no one united Orthodox church. There's the church of Athens, of Antioch, of Moscow, of Serbia, of Bulgaria, of Jerusalem, of Egypt... and they're all independent of each other. The only one who I suppose could still bear a grudge other than the walking-dead church of Constantinople is the church of Athens, but I don't know if they still claim Istanbul for Greece. Either way, the idea is idiotic and got lost in the 1920s, when Greece was defeated during its invasion of Turkey.


    Wow, you really don't follow this stuff at ALL, do you? Sorry, but the whole orthodox world is in some ways united. One of them is that they blame at least in part the Catholics for the fall of their empire. Why? Because of the sack of Constantinople that helped bring down their empire, and how the Catholics completely ignored them in their greatest need when they were being destroyed by the Turks. You know all those historical details but don't know about modern history? Huh?

    Sure there are different branches of Orthodoxy but in many ways they are similar and they all have the same roots from the church of Constantinople.

    Recently both sides have made some slight overtures, and the Pope even visited an Orthodox nation (a first in an extremely long time, maybe ever), but the Catholics haven't really said sorry and the Orthodox haven't forgiven them for it... its fading a bit, finally, but still quite real.


    As for knights... ASM you just don't know any of the historical realities or facts. 'Knight' was a hereditary title that all sons of knights got... and as he said only the oldest one got land. The 'landless knight' class grew greatly as time passed, as you'd expect... and it became a problem, with so many landless nobles with nothing to do.

    Oh, and knights serving lords? Huh? Knights were a noble class! A low noble class, sure, but a noble class... its not like in the middle ages it was a thing anyone could achieve -- it wasn't. Only nobles could become knights.

    As for the king you really should remember that in the middle ages kings were relatively weak and didn't really have much power over their leige lords, such as landed knights. So obiously they didn't have many options as far as landless knights went. Crusades were one way of getting rid of them...
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