5th August 2003, 11:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 6th August 2003, 12:03 AM by Dark Jaguar.)
Random subject change!
The uncertainty principle basically dictates that not even one who is all knowing can EVER know both the position and trajectory of any particle. According to quantum physics, particles are suggestions of position! In fact, if one attempts to use the existing data to insert what must have been both it's position and trajectory into a formula, the answer is ALWAYS wrong when compaired to what really happened. This prooves it can't be knowable to ANY being. As an example, the slot experiment involves firing a specifically aimed particle gun of sorts at a wall and looking at it. It would seem the particles create a vague pattern, not actually ending at all, but going outward and diluting, and in fact are all over the room, even behind the wall. It would seem particles get to "pick" what happens, deciding from all the things they could POSSIBLY do and going through each, and just landing at some result eventually.
This means that there are things God doesn't know, because He can't know them. At least at first it seems that way. However, the true implications according to a few are that in fact, that IS what particles are. Particles ARE just the possible, not the actual, until they are done doing whatever they did. It can't be known because the info doesn't even exist, and never will. What at first seems to defeat omniscience in fact merely defeated the last vestiges of the old world notion of determinism. The stars can't possibly guide us because the universe isn't a determined thing, but containes many TRUE possibilities. We DO have free will.
Your thoughts? I know I'm confused :D.
Oh, I'd highly suggest googling the uncertainty principle before pointing out what I got wrong :D.
The uncertainty principle basically dictates that not even one who is all knowing can EVER know both the position and trajectory of any particle. According to quantum physics, particles are suggestions of position! In fact, if one attempts to use the existing data to insert what must have been both it's position and trajectory into a formula, the answer is ALWAYS wrong when compaired to what really happened. This prooves it can't be knowable to ANY being. As an example, the slot experiment involves firing a specifically aimed particle gun of sorts at a wall and looking at it. It would seem the particles create a vague pattern, not actually ending at all, but going outward and diluting, and in fact are all over the room, even behind the wall. It would seem particles get to "pick" what happens, deciding from all the things they could POSSIBLY do and going through each, and just landing at some result eventually.
This means that there are things God doesn't know, because He can't know them. At least at first it seems that way. However, the true implications according to a few are that in fact, that IS what particles are. Particles ARE just the possible, not the actual, until they are done doing whatever they did. It can't be known because the info doesn't even exist, and never will. What at first seems to defeat omniscience in fact merely defeated the last vestiges of the old world notion of determinism. The stars can't possibly guide us because the universe isn't a determined thing, but containes many TRUE possibilities. We DO have free will.
Your thoughts? I know I'm confused :D.
Oh, I'd highly suggest googling the uncertainty principle before pointing out what I got wrong :D.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)