It's unfortunate...

[A Black Falcon]

Yes, let's... they're far, far, far superior to public schooling in almost every aspect. It's a well-known fact that children in public schools outperform public-school students dramatically, and recieve a far higher quality education. That fact cannot be disputed with any semblance of credibility.

For-profit public schools. Which is what they'd pretty much have to be to make your "plan" work. YOU CANNOT SEND EVERYONE TO PRIVATE SCHOOL. AND IF PRIVATE COMPANIES RUN SCHOOLS FOR NO TUITION THEY WANT PROFITS. And those profits just don't come very much, as the companies that tried have learned... so as we said they'd abandon some markets. Leaving us with... nothing. Great!

As for private schools, yes, those students do do better... its to be expected -- you have to be fairly rich and/or dedicated to spend that much money, after all...

And for the few students on vouchers it might help but it'd very quickly make the schools they abandon worse by orders of magnitude. Which is EXACTLY the wrong thing to be doing! It doesn't help our nation to let a few succeed while tossing the masses to the wolves! That isn't good policy!

Yet again I have to repeat myself: Funding is not what is killing public education. It's the increasingly lower education standards and lack of discipline. How in the world will money fix that? How can funding be a problem when public education sponsors such worthless things like sex education and multicultural studies? Besides being at the expense of core curriculum?

Kids aren't failing school for lack of money. They are failing because liberals have ruined the system with revisionism and multiculturalism, and have lowered standards so that anyone can pass. It makes for artificially good grades in the classroom and disaster in the real world, and even though I've addressed this point at least three times you have ignored it every single time and instead continue to claim that low funds are the problem.

You try to convince yourself that funding isn't the problem so you can justify constant cuts in school budgets. Unfortunately, reality shows how wrong you are. Schools with more money do better. That is objective fact. They do better. The students do better. But you want to cut them and then blame it on curriculum? That's absurd!

Sure there might be a little grade inflation but its not some epidemic like you make it seem.

"Worthless" programs? I don't think so. Not at all. How are they worthless? Sure students might not like some things much but schools should provide a good varied curriculum that has more than just the basics...

That would be the case if not for vouchers, which, if generous enough, could easily support the placement of private schools in rural areas.

And if you don't think rich kids get better public education than poor kids already, you're living in dreamland. Sure, wealthier children would go to better private schools, it goes without saying. But private schools for less-wealthy children, while maybe not as great as the aforementioned, would be leaps and bounds better than the rotting public school system which cannot help them at all. Private schools would have stricter hiring criteria for teachers and increased discipline, and near-complete control over curriculum.

In esscense, you are against better education for the poor. You are saying we should sink more money into public schools, a solution which has never worked at all, and would further damn the poor to terrible education, just because you want more government control over education, and it is harder to force liberal agendas on students when the government cannot control the curriculum.

Not just tossing money at them. Spending it to actively work to improve school quality. It can work... Republicans like you just would never let it be tried. Spend money on public education? Are you insane?

And private schools aren't the perfect solution you seem to think. Sure in some ways they do better... but its not super dramatic in the cases you propose, for sure. And private schools don't necessarially have better staffs -- they pay teachers less than public schools, after all... since they don't have lots of funds, just tuition.

Oh, and of course public schools in richer areas are better. That's the way it works -- the more money the schools have the better they do.

Hmm, I wonder how other schools would go if they were given enough money?

And if you think you can make public schools private and fund them somehow and all that and have it work better than the current system you're delusional...