24th June 2003, 5:07 PM
I don't understand why you think I disrespect you, Nintendarse. I find myself to deal mostly civil with you. Unless it is my ideas that cause this rift, but I can't help that.
Actually, I think the idea of changing the criteria from race to wealth is a great idea, because the benefits one would get in such a way from being poor can be eliminated if that person obtains a higher tax bracket. I wish affirmative action would not continue, but I accept that affirmative action will continue. What I hope is that it can be phased out over time as society in general becomes more progressive. As Justice O'Connor said in her announcement, she hopes that in about 25 years, affirmative action will no longer be necessary.
In any case, you bring up a great point about wealth, and it should definitely be the determining factor in affirmative action, and not skin color. After all, it is harder for a poor white person to get into college than a middle-class black person. Do middle-class and wealthy blacks really need extra help? No, not nearly as much as a poor person would.
ABF, your liberal hypocracy shines through. You think it's a worse idea for kids to be exposed to religion than it is for them to recieve a decent education. What would be nice is if education was completely privatized and the government's role reduced to merely supervisory, because public education is a failure, by and large, and lack of funding is only one reason for that. Another, much more major reason is the constant lowering of educational standards, a liberal idea meant to reduce discrimination against lazy and stupid students, which leads to grade inflation and other such nonsense. Since liberal education reforms began, public education has tailspinned, and it's so bad now that it might not be possible to fix.
I very much believe in vouchers, and those vouchers should be used for the parents' choice of private schools. That way, the child recieves a decent education, and they can choose whether or not their child attends parochial school or secular school, since they will use the vouchers as they see fit. Privatization of education would force higher standards from both teachers and students.
Actually, I think the idea of changing the criteria from race to wealth is a great idea, because the benefits one would get in such a way from being poor can be eliminated if that person obtains a higher tax bracket. I wish affirmative action would not continue, but I accept that affirmative action will continue. What I hope is that it can be phased out over time as society in general becomes more progressive. As Justice O'Connor said in her announcement, she hopes that in about 25 years, affirmative action will no longer be necessary.
In any case, you bring up a great point about wealth, and it should definitely be the determining factor in affirmative action, and not skin color. After all, it is harder for a poor white person to get into college than a middle-class black person. Do middle-class and wealthy blacks really need extra help? No, not nearly as much as a poor person would.
ABF, your liberal hypocracy shines through. You think it's a worse idea for kids to be exposed to religion than it is for them to recieve a decent education. What would be nice is if education was completely privatized and the government's role reduced to merely supervisory, because public education is a failure, by and large, and lack of funding is only one reason for that. Another, much more major reason is the constant lowering of educational standards, a liberal idea meant to reduce discrimination against lazy and stupid students, which leads to grade inflation and other such nonsense. Since liberal education reforms began, public education has tailspinned, and it's so bad now that it might not be possible to fix.
I very much believe in vouchers, and those vouchers should be used for the parents' choice of private schools. That way, the child recieves a decent education, and they can choose whether or not their child attends parochial school or secular school, since they will use the vouchers as they see fit. Privatization of education would force higher standards from both teachers and students.
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