This is sooo gay

[A Black Falcon]

That's total shit and you know it. If gay people had crossed wires that made them not want to have kids because they had some nonexistent genetic urge to screw only other people of the same sex, then why do gay people fight so hard to adopt children (which is a terrible, terrible idea)?

No one's brain is wired to do ANYTHING except do basic bodily functions. Almost everything you do in life you do because you have a desire to do it, and as anyone with half a brain knows, sex is all about desire. And no one is born with a single desire. No one.

Um, you don't really make sense... why would it be true that because you see other people as attractive your urge to want children would go too? They are obviously not linked that closely... because it doesn't work that way. Just because you see the same gender as attractive you should have lost your urge to have/raise children? Huh?

It takes imagination to be gay? No. You have gay sex in prison if the imagination+masturbation combo doesn't appeal to you.

No, no, imagining a woman during it.

I'm not surprised in the least. You seem to avoid common sense like the Road Runner evades Wile E. Coyote.

What YOU are saying is what is bizarre. You're trying to tell me that having gay sex doesn't make you gay but THINKING about gay sex DOES make you gay! How can you say something like that with a straight face? That makes as much sense as saying that you are not a murderer if you actually murder someone, but you are a murderer if you desire to kill someone.

I know that your method of logic is so completely warped that you believe things like that, but most normal people know better.

Thinking about killing someone doesn't make you a murderer, but there definitely a difference between someone who just kills someone and someone who thinks about doing that all the time and plans it before killing someone.

But that doesn't have much to do with this... except for the fact that its probably true that some people are wired to be more violent than others.

As for this issue... why would it make you gay if you have gay sex? Being gay has nothing to do with who you have sex with... its who you find attractive... and teh things you are talking about aren't even close to that.

I know that's why they have gay sex, I stated that in the first post I made on the subject. But having gay sex is not the only way one can get off. You can also masturbate, you only need yourself to do that. If getting an orgasm is the solitary goal, masturbation suffices perfectly. If you have sex with someone else, you want more than just a simple orgasm. You feel attraction to a person, on some level, to have sex with them. Do you think people practice bestiality or other such depravities just to get off? Hell no, they do it because they have a sick attraction to whatever they're fucking, be it another man or a doberman or horse or gerbil.

That aside, the whole point of this is that if homosexuality were genetic or biological, then only gay men would have gay sex in prison, when everyone knows that is not the case, because everyone has the potential to be gay.

No, the point is that your arguement makes no sense. None. If it were genetic/biological it'd happen exactly as it does. If it was environemental, however, it wouldn't be even close.

Look, are you going to argue that they find masturbation and sex to be just as rewarding? Because clearly they don't or it wouldn't be happening. Are they gay? No. They are not. They are just criminals in prison who want more. And even men is better to them than nothing. That doesn't say anything about being gay... just about their situation. It doesn't mean that when they get out they are going to suddenly be gay... or do you actually think that that is true? How sad... because that's not the way it works.

Now if it were environmental, that is exactly what would happen... or pretty close.

It's not really my argument to say that they're less natural or good, it's my argument to say that everyone has the urges, a few people act on them, and to do so is a choice.

It is extremely stupid and uninformed to equate those "small urges" with what it is like for a homosexual person.