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[A Black Falcon]

Weltall, please take the time to read my posts. You have continually dodged all of the good points that I have made in the Debate forum. It's frustrating.

Weltall always dodges the best points. He has no answer so he just doesn't...

Funny, in your earlier posts, this war was Bush wanting to finish what his father started, and get revenge for the attempt on his father's life. Now all of a sudden it wasn't Bush and the motives are no longer personal, now all of a sudden he was just the willing pawn of his evil advisors.

It keeps getting funnier each time. Please, do continue.

Uhh... try READING what I say first. Becuase that just makes no sense whatsoever.

First, Bush is a moron. Not especially smart. He is controlled by his advisors because they are smarter than he is.

Second, he does want to make up for his father's mistake. While his father didn't do it for good reasons, Bush sees how he was tossed out of office and wants to right that "wrong".

There?

But you have no basis for this. We are the power of the world, in every aspect. We, for the most part, do not need other nations to prosper, as we are more than capable of producing much of what we need ourselves. What you keep refusing to acknowledge is the fact that the relationship between the U.S. and the rest of the world is hardly a dichotomy. We do not depend on other nations for much that is extremely important. However, other nations DO depend on us for a lot. There are more than a few nations that exist only because we help them to financially. There will be effects of what we are doing, but nothing catastrophic, If other nations refuse to cooperate with us, so be it. The hugely successful war that we fought with little help proves just how much we actually need other countries to support us.

What I'm trying to say is that this nation is in a place in the world where it does not require the favorable opinion of the world to do what needs to be done. Would it be nice if they agreed with us more? Sure. But necessary? Absolutely not.

Again, keep in mind: The rest of the world needs us more than we need them.

First read Nintendarse's post. It is very good.

Now, you seem to think that the US should act only in its own interests, rest of the world with us or not. And also that their opinion is irrelevant. You greatly underestimate the power of a international community nearly united against us, Weltall... they can do all kinds of things to hurt us. Some they are already doing. You will just brush it off with another 'they will do what we want because we are strong' but it just doesn't work that way! You will see in the future how badly you underestimated their strength... Oh, and we CANNOT live without them. You also greatly underestimate how much we rely on the international community in almost every way.

The weapons that we'll be finding.

They're with Bin Laden and Sadaam, right?

I meant, a good reason.

There can't be a better one.

Huh? What could stake could oil companies have in reconstruction beyond oil-related facilities? Let me guess, there's a huge right-wing consipiracy to turn Iraq into a huge consolidated refinery. Or maybe a nation of gas-stations? You mean to tell me that the oil companies are also going to oversee the reconstruction of infrastructure and physical damage? How is that even possible?



Again, think before you type. You keep changing your story, and it gets more ridiculous each time.

Why don't you start first? Because once again what you are saying has no relationship with the truth or what I said...

Gas companies will get HUGE rebuilding contracts from the US government. They will make a LOT of money off of them, rebuilding Iraq's ancient oil infrastructure and then getting money off of the oil. It also greatly decreases our need to rely on the Saudis... MUCH MUCH more than Anwar ever would.

I never said it was his prime motivation (though France, several other European nations, and the whole Middle East seems to think that)... but it is a major one. Bush helps business, business helps Bush... the tax cuts, which almost exculsively help the rich and businesses, are another example of that.

Answer my question: Why kick the inspectors out for four years if you have nothing to hide?

Because Sadaam hates us, and them, and doesn't want them there, weapons or not. As I'd expect from a evil antiamerican isolationist dictator.