You got what you deserve, Republican Party...

[Weltall]

Weltall, have you noticed? Bernie endorsed Hillary now, finally. The primaries are over and the party is unifying. Did you watch video of their event together in New Hampshire? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NGosB4ieTE

The Party is unifying in fear of Donald Trump. Fear of the GOP is the only unifying force this party has. Unfortunately, they have unified around a candidate that might not beat him.

Bernie was in the House then, so he likely had less? The Senate had the key vote, from what I remember.

That's my point. It should have been a no-brainer for someone as intelligent as Clinton to see that it was a bad idea... unless you feel beholden to the same interests that require endless war for their perpetual enrichment. Bad judgment or corruption? Which is it, and which is worse?

Bernie was far from the only person on the right side of the Iraq issue, you know. And if you hate her so much for supporting it, were you also vocal in opposing Biden for VP and Kerry for current Secretary of State since both of them voted the same as she did on that vote?

VP is not an important position (and I was not left-leaning in 2008 anyway) and I was not a fan of John Kerry as SoS. Another weaksauce Democrat who lost a winnable election because he was too timid to fight for progressive principles.

Bernie kept trying to use this nonstarter of a point in the Democratic debates, and it just made him look desperate. It doesn't just strain credibility to say "I agree with most of the things you say about foreign policy but we can't trust you because you voted wrong on one vote 12 years ago". That's an obviously deeply flawed argument when you have NO major differences on actual current foreign policy issues, and when Hillary crushed him on the details in every single foreign policy section in the Democratic debates.

On one vote that has cascaded into a worldwide clusterfuck the likes of which will continue to cause problems for decades to come? Yeah, just a little matter.

Actually, literally his entire case against her on the foreign policy front began and ended with "but she voted wrong on Iraq". There was NOTHING else there because they agree on everything else to a much greater extent. Those foreign policy debates were interesting because of how rarely they actually disagreed about much... she's more vocal about supporting Israel (I'm entirely on her side of this one, I REALLY dislike the anti-Israel trend of some people on the left today -- but even there Bernie himself isn't as extreme on this issue as some of his supporters are), they have some slight wording differences about Iran... was there even anything else of note? If you can't come up with any actual current issue you think she's really wrong about, it's hard to make the case that you can't trust her you know!

What of her foreign policy experience is worth bragging about? A four year stint as SoS? In which we saw the Middle East collapse even further into anarchy because of our assistance in overthrowing dictators? What was accomplished under her watch, exactly? She has that small amount of experience and it's not really that great a body of work.

Hillary is an old Democrat in the mindset that you can't appear to be weak on crime or on defense. So expect more 'interventions' and the defense budget bloat to continue unabated.

You never know. Does he use email at all? Old people...

I believe he would not because it's a bad idea too obvious for anyone but Clinton to attempt. Or maybe Trump. Who knows. We're so fucked.

She did not do that. The State Department has now said that those three emails known to have been marked as classified were actually marked that way in error, or two of them were for sure and the third probably was as well. Information State actually considered classified did not go onto Hillary's server. http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/revisit...formation/

You could make that case that State did not want to call everything classified that the FBI does, because that's very clearly true, but that is a very different thing from claiming that she or her people sent emails her department considered classified to her server; they didn't.

Neatly wrapped up in a bow so that the secretary of state would face no legal penalties. Plenty of underlings to throw under the bus, after all.

So now you're repeating ludicrous, blatantly false conspiracy theories? I'd have hoped for better than repeating obvious falsehoods. I do not believe in conspiracy theories and you shouldn't either.

The conspiracy theory here is that the statement from the prince was made up by 'hackers' and I don't believe that for a hot second.

As for the speeches, you are not beholden to a group just because you spoke before them.

Like Republicans and their speaking fees to finance and petroleum and assorted Jesus banger groups?

Clinton is a classic American politician. It would be folly to assume she is not on the take because that is what politicians do.

You do know she is currently explicitly running as being against TPP, yes? It's not just a line on her website, she's actually saying it in speeches and such. People are watching.

That is what she is saying today, when she needs votes. Again, at best, she's just your average politician who thrives in the slime. If Obama pushes it through, who believes for a moment she'll try to undo it?

She was wholeheartedly on board with NAFTA and defended it for two decades. In 2016, people have come to understand that free trade agreements with unregulated labor markets are bad for American workers and all of a sudden Clinton agrees?

How crazy that no one outside of the cult of Clinton finds this new stance sincere.