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    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own!
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    11th April 2015, 10:18 PM
    On the other hand, human pilots have made errors in judgment that directly crash planes into the sea before too. The difference is, AI doesn't yet have real "objective" style thinking. They don't have a part that says "the most important thing is to arrive safely" or "human lives are valuable". They have the barest part of situational awareness, and general rule sets, nothing more.

    Ultimately, computer driven systems are going to be the safest way to fly or drive. Think of the number of times a human pays attention to their intuition over the instruments on the flight panel and end up being lost at sea. (I've heard that the windows are basically there for show, and most pilots are trained just to read the instruments over all else and ignore what they see out the window.) I've no idea exactly what sort of mistake in logic that plane's computer system made to determine that the landing strip was in the ocean... Maybe an instrument failed and the program was unable to determine that the rest of the instruments should be used and the one faulty one should be ignored. We may see similar errors in computer judgment as more and more cars start to become automated. My biggest concern? Unusual road layouts. Take the time to drive around the outskirts of the Tulsa area, or even certain regions of downtown, and you'll find a lot of very difficult to figure out roads. I've seen a two-lane road "split" into two other two lane roads, with the two lanes of one road being "one way" and the other being "two way", and no easy way to figure out exactly what the heck just happened or which path leads to not crashing. There's a 5-way intersection in downtown Tulsa. That is, a standard intersection of two roads in a cross formation, like normal, and now add at one "corner" a diagonally intersecting exit from a nearby highway. It is not at all clear exactly which of the two sets of traffic lights you can see are supposed to be "your" light, or even what a "safe" way to enter any of the roads in the intersection is supposed to be. There are plenty of other "off" situations of this or that street strangely ending, or curving, or branching, or joining, or becoming someone's driveway, or any other weird layout decision out there, and while a human being may have trouble in such a situation, at least it can be navigated with a little communication with other drivers. How the heck are computer driven cars supposed to figure this out? That's not even taking into account Amazon's drone delivery program. In a perfect world, they'd be fine. However, in an imperfect world, someone's "house" comes off a small gravel road off a numbered road, and that leads to a laundry room technically not even attached to the main house, with the whole yard covered in trees. The front porch used to just be a porch, but last year the person living there bought some metal sheeting from Southerland's and put a rather trashy awning over the pattio. How does Amazon's drone figure out exactly where to leave that package? Do they leave it at the end of the concrete road? Does it know what a gravel road looks like, but it ends up leaving it at the laundry room instead of the main house? Does it attempt a landing and crash in the tree branches? Does it determine where the porch is, but accidentally leaves it on top of the awning because it didn't know a new extension was built? What about people who's addresses are basically mile markers because they live on a farm? Does that package just get left on the side of the highway?

    This is the problem. Real life is an insane and chaotic mess where nothing makes sense and hope is a lie. I'm not sure computer programs can navigate it very well.
    "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by A Black Falcon - 10th April 2015, 9:55 PM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by Dark Jaguar - 11th April 2015, 10:18 PM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by Great Rumbler - 17th April 2015, 7:41 PM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by Dark Jaguar - 18th April 2015, 9:45 AM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by Sacred Jellybean - 18th April 2015, 11:14 AM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by Sacred Jellybean - 18th April 2015, 11:18 AM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by A Black Falcon - 18th April 2015, 6:57 PM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by Sacred Jellybean - 19th April 2015, 2:30 AM
    Who needs human pilots in airplanes? Computers will do just fine on their own! - by Dark Jaguar - 19th April 2015, 8:58 AM

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