23rd June 2012, 12:14 PM
[quote=Dark Jaguar]I don't know what you're saying, so I'll respond to the 3DS LL instead.
Terrible.
[quote]-$200
Nintendo, no.[/quote]
Only $30 more for a significant upgrade? Not bad, not bad at all. Why do you complain here? What were you hoping for, another price cut already and this at the old 3DS price or something? That's not realistic. The price is reasonable.
[quote]-90% larger screen than the regular 3DS, and 46% better battery life -- this new model has 6-10 hours of battery life.
Great for that demographic that has poor vision and huge pockets (the elderly), but not really something I'm interested in. Plus, it doesn't fit the Circle Pad Pro. I'll get to that in a moment, but all in all, handhelds shouldn't be getting bigger.[/quote]
A lot of people liked the DSi XL, this is for that market. It's also been pointed out that on this original DS games will display at full size, when you boot them up at their native res by holding select, instead of being really small. That's certainly a plus too. As for pockets, yeah, they're bigger, but don't look so large that no pockets could hold them... I'm more interested in this than in the base 3DS, really.
[quote]-Otherwise the same as the first version. No, no second analog stick, thankfully.
I assume that was sarcasm. All this waiting for the next model, and instead of being an actual remodel, it's just the grande size. They couldn't even fit in the extra analog stick and shoulder buttons on this gargantuan? There's really no excuse for charging this much extra and still forcing people to buy something that'll make the system even LARGER and more uncomfortable down the line. Bad call Nintendo.[/quote]
Sarcasm? No, not at all. Since when have I ever cared about dual analog? I've always been a critic of it in fact, if you remember. I don't think any dual analog gamepad is as good as the N64 or Saturn 3D controllers... dual analog is over-rated. (Oh, and I'd rather play console FPSes on the N64 controller than with dual analog.)
Seriously, the constant griping I've seen about the 3DS not having dual analog is really annoying. No, it doesn't matter, and it doesn't hurt the system at all. Nintendo clearly agrees, as you can see in how the 3DS XL does not have a second analog stick. Well, to be fair, I can see two obvious reasons. First, it'd split the market -- now you'd have some people with dual analog, and some without. You couldn't require everyone with an original 3DS to always use the circle pad pro thing, that thing's huge and bulky. And forcing them all to upgrade to this system just a year later wouldn't be right either. This way is the best one.
In addition, though, I do think that part of it's simply that Nintendo doesn't think the second stick is really needed. They obviously don't plan on supporting that circle pad pro addon much, because it's not needed most of the time, so why bother spending extra money adding a pad when it wouldn't be used most of the time? Nobody's forced to buy a Circle Pad Pro, it's not like any games require it.
As for shoulder buttons, um, it has those already. I assume you mean a second set? How would you fit that on, in any kind of comfortable fashion? You can't make it thicker, it's supposed to be a portable system. And that "two next to eachother" style like the original Wii Classic Controller is a horrible, horrible idea. No, there's no good way to go it.
Oh, and as for making it larger, that's obviously the whole idea -- this is for people who want a larger screen and bigger system. The DSi XL did reasonably well, this probably will too.
[quote]-Better Start/Select/Home buttons (see the below pic)
That's good. Those 3 buttons are really aweful on the current model. They're like microwave buttons.[/quote]
Yeah, it's a definite improvement.
[quote]This should NOT be Nintendo's first "remodel". It doesn't even count as one. They haven't improved the screen (aside from size). They didn't bother putting on the extra buttons and analog stick (the circle pad pro makes up for a poor design decision, but only barely since it makes the system so much bulkier, which a remodel could easily address). The larger size is an interesting alternative and that's the best I can say.
This one's a pass unless you want to dedicate half a purse or a massive jacket pocket or something to this thing and don't mind having to hold something that much heavier.[/QUOTE]
It's not a replacement, it's an alternative model, just like the DSi and DSi XL. They certainly couldn't make the 3DS smaller; the thing was absolutely jam-packed inside, and already was as small as a DS lite or DSi. The only obvious move for a second model was to do the DSi route and make a bigger one, and indeed, that's what they've done. It's what I was expecting, really.
Terrible.
[quote]-$200
Nintendo, no.[/quote]
Only $30 more for a significant upgrade? Not bad, not bad at all. Why do you complain here? What were you hoping for, another price cut already and this at the old 3DS price or something? That's not realistic. The price is reasonable.
[quote]-90% larger screen than the regular 3DS, and 46% better battery life -- this new model has 6-10 hours of battery life.
Great for that demographic that has poor vision and huge pockets (the elderly), but not really something I'm interested in. Plus, it doesn't fit the Circle Pad Pro. I'll get to that in a moment, but all in all, handhelds shouldn't be getting bigger.[/quote]
A lot of people liked the DSi XL, this is for that market. It's also been pointed out that on this original DS games will display at full size, when you boot them up at their native res by holding select, instead of being really small. That's certainly a plus too. As for pockets, yeah, they're bigger, but don't look so large that no pockets could hold them... I'm more interested in this than in the base 3DS, really.
[quote]-Otherwise the same as the first version. No, no second analog stick, thankfully.
I assume that was sarcasm. All this waiting for the next model, and instead of being an actual remodel, it's just the grande size. They couldn't even fit in the extra analog stick and shoulder buttons on this gargantuan? There's really no excuse for charging this much extra and still forcing people to buy something that'll make the system even LARGER and more uncomfortable down the line. Bad call Nintendo.[/quote]
Sarcasm? No, not at all. Since when have I ever cared about dual analog? I've always been a critic of it in fact, if you remember. I don't think any dual analog gamepad is as good as the N64 or Saturn 3D controllers... dual analog is over-rated. (Oh, and I'd rather play console FPSes on the N64 controller than with dual analog.)
Seriously, the constant griping I've seen about the 3DS not having dual analog is really annoying. No, it doesn't matter, and it doesn't hurt the system at all. Nintendo clearly agrees, as you can see in how the 3DS XL does not have a second analog stick. Well, to be fair, I can see two obvious reasons. First, it'd split the market -- now you'd have some people with dual analog, and some without. You couldn't require everyone with an original 3DS to always use the circle pad pro thing, that thing's huge and bulky. And forcing them all to upgrade to this system just a year later wouldn't be right either. This way is the best one.
In addition, though, I do think that part of it's simply that Nintendo doesn't think the second stick is really needed. They obviously don't plan on supporting that circle pad pro addon much, because it's not needed most of the time, so why bother spending extra money adding a pad when it wouldn't be used most of the time? Nobody's forced to buy a Circle Pad Pro, it's not like any games require it.
As for shoulder buttons, um, it has those already. I assume you mean a second set? How would you fit that on, in any kind of comfortable fashion? You can't make it thicker, it's supposed to be a portable system. And that "two next to eachother" style like the original Wii Classic Controller is a horrible, horrible idea. No, there's no good way to go it.
Oh, and as for making it larger, that's obviously the whole idea -- this is for people who want a larger screen and bigger system. The DSi XL did reasonably well, this probably will too.
[quote]-Better Start/Select/Home buttons (see the below pic)
That's good. Those 3 buttons are really aweful on the current model. They're like microwave buttons.[/quote]
Yeah, it's a definite improvement.
[quote]This should NOT be Nintendo's first "remodel". It doesn't even count as one. They haven't improved the screen (aside from size). They didn't bother putting on the extra buttons and analog stick (the circle pad pro makes up for a poor design decision, but only barely since it makes the system so much bulkier, which a remodel could easily address). The larger size is an interesting alternative and that's the best I can say.
This one's a pass unless you want to dedicate half a purse or a massive jacket pocket or something to this thing and don't mind having to hold something that much heavier.[/QUOTE]
It's not a replacement, it's an alternative model, just like the DSi and DSi XL. They certainly couldn't make the 3DS smaller; the thing was absolutely jam-packed inside, and already was as small as a DS lite or DSi. The only obvious move for a second model was to do the DSi route and make a bigger one, and indeed, that's what they've done. It's what I was expecting, really.
![[Image: logo_bos_79x76.jpg]](https://www.tendocity.net/logo_bos_79x76.jpg){kind=logo}