2nd June 2011, 7:31 PM
Link those studies. Most studies DON'T show any link.
I have to correct something though.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/0...e_of_c.php
Read that. All of it. The majority of studies show no link. The few that do all seem to come from the same lab, which is suspicious and might show a flawed method. Independent verification is a big part of scientific consensus. A study by itself could be a statistical anomaly. A lot put together is much stronger. Anyway, show your "huge number of studies". Pub med's right there.
However, I have to state one thing. My understanding of cancer is dated, 1990's as Orac puts it. Modern understanding shows that DNA changes, while a major cause of it, are not the sole producer of cancer, defined as runaway growth of cells. A similar effect can be caused by hormonal, protein, or other sorts of cellular imbalance. It is feasible, remotely, that a little extra heat could cause runaway growth of cells due to a chain reaction of some sort. Further, I'll also admit that no matter how solid the physics, evidence in studies for a connection will trump that.
So what does the evidence show? Nothing. Check that site. Orac, simply put, knows more than you on this topic, but that's just an argument from authority. This is more of an argument from data. There simply isn't any that support your view.
I'm laying it all out there. The conviction that cell phones "cause cancer" is dated, with little to no supporting evidence for it. It is an 80's fear that's as wrong as the 90's obsession with "repressed memory syndrome" (remember all those alien abductions and horrible stories about kids in satanic rape cults?), and the 200X obsession with vaccines causing autism (the fear of which is actually causing a resurgence of diseases not seen in years). I'd bring up corn syrup, but the jury's still out on a couple of things about it. So far the studies seem to show no more unhealthy than consuming equal amounts of sugar (that is, not healthy, but the focus should be on reducing sweets in general, not specifically corn syrup).
Cell phones are dangerous and annoying, but not because of cancer. It's because people text to each other while driving.
I have to correct something though.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/0...e_of_c.php
Read that. All of it. The majority of studies show no link. The few that do all seem to come from the same lab, which is suspicious and might show a flawed method. Independent verification is a big part of scientific consensus. A study by itself could be a statistical anomaly. A lot put together is much stronger. Anyway, show your "huge number of studies". Pub med's right there.
However, I have to state one thing. My understanding of cancer is dated, 1990's as Orac puts it. Modern understanding shows that DNA changes, while a major cause of it, are not the sole producer of cancer, defined as runaway growth of cells. A similar effect can be caused by hormonal, protein, or other sorts of cellular imbalance. It is feasible, remotely, that a little extra heat could cause runaway growth of cells due to a chain reaction of some sort. Further, I'll also admit that no matter how solid the physics, evidence in studies for a connection will trump that.
So what does the evidence show? Nothing. Check that site. Orac, simply put, knows more than you on this topic, but that's just an argument from authority. This is more of an argument from data. There simply isn't any that support your view.
I'm laying it all out there. The conviction that cell phones "cause cancer" is dated, with little to no supporting evidence for it. It is an 80's fear that's as wrong as the 90's obsession with "repressed memory syndrome" (remember all those alien abductions and horrible stories about kids in satanic rape cults?), and the 200X obsession with vaccines causing autism (the fear of which is actually causing a resurgence of diseases not seen in years). I'd bring up corn syrup, but the jury's still out on a couple of things about it. So far the studies seem to show no more unhealthy than consuming equal amounts of sugar (that is, not healthy, but the focus should be on reducing sweets in general, not specifically corn syrup).
Cell phones are dangerous and annoying, but not because of cancer. It's because people text to each other while driving.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)