8th November 2010, 1:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 8th November 2010, 1:40 AM by A Black Falcon.)
Those numbers in Famitsu are worldwide sales totals, not Japanese sales totals, DJ. :)
The Atari 2600 was released in Japan, but I don't think it sold very well there at all. It was called the "Atari 2800" there.
Yeah, even for just North America, Genesis numbers are tricky. First, you have the Genesis itself, models 1 and 2 from Sega. A hopefully correct source puts 1989-1994 sales at 14 million. Then there are 1995-97, adding more sales (see this thread at Sega-16: http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread....132&page=3 ). Then there's 1998, when Majesco released the Genesis 3 and sold an estimated 1.5-2 million systems that year (outselling the SNES for the year, something the Genesis hadn't done since maybe 1993). Then there's also the Sega Nomad, the original portable Genesis, the only number I've seen is a million but I just don't believe it sold anywhere near that much... but we have no other number (we do know that 900,000 Game Gears sold in 1995, though).
And then, on top of that, there are various modern licensed clones, both handheld and TV systems... unlike Nintendo clones, which aren't licensed (and thus I could easily not count them), some of the Sega ones are a little trickier since while they also use licensed hardware, some are licensed by Sega and do have some built-in games... should those count too? There are absolutely no sales figures for those.
Two thirds of worldwide N64 sales -- around 21 million -- were in the Americas. It did a LOT better here than anywhere else. The Gamecube was similar, just with lower numbers -- 14 million here, 21+ million worldwide total. Actually, the N64 only sold slightly below the SNES's Americas total of 23.35 million... the SNES only wins by so much worldwide because of how much that system did elsewhere.
Here's the official Nintendo sales chart. Note that these are shipped numbers, not sold, but all we can do is assume that they eventually sold. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/his..._e0912.pdf
Yeah, I'm sure that number is wrong. There were literally dozens of Pong clones on the market in the '70s, they probably didn't sell well compared to later generations, but 10,000? No way, I'm sure it was more.
He got it from a GAF thread, somebody there translated it. He just didn't bother to cite the link to the source... here it is. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.p...035&page=4
The Atari 2600 was released in Japan, but I don't think it sold very well there at all. It was called the "Atari 2800" there.
Quote:I had got the impression the SNES won that generation, but never had concrete numbers. It's hard to say though. Like the NES, the Genesis likely doesn't count the countless unliscensed knockoff consoles sold in deepest darkest Africa, and still sold at kiosks at one of the local malls here. Should those count, or not? It's a tricky thing...
Yeah, even for just North America, Genesis numbers are tricky. First, you have the Genesis itself, models 1 and 2 from Sega. A hopefully correct source puts 1989-1994 sales at 14 million. Then there are 1995-97, adding more sales (see this thread at Sega-16: http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread....132&page=3 ). Then there's 1998, when Majesco released the Genesis 3 and sold an estimated 1.5-2 million systems that year (outselling the SNES for the year, something the Genesis hadn't done since maybe 1993). Then there's also the Sega Nomad, the original portable Genesis, the only number I've seen is a million but I just don't believe it sold anywhere near that much... but we have no other number (we do know that 900,000 Game Gears sold in 1995, though).
And then, on top of that, there are various modern licensed clones, both handheld and TV systems... unlike Nintendo clones, which aren't licensed (and thus I could easily not count them), some of the Sega ones are a little trickier since while they also use licensed hardware, some are licensed by Sega and do have some built-in games... should those count too? There are absolutely no sales figures for those.
Quote:The N64 did better than I thought, that is relative to both the Gamecube and XBox. Then again, I don't remember there being a huge holiday rush for those two systems like there was with the N64 when it came out.
Two thirds of worldwide N64 sales -- around 21 million -- were in the Americas. It did a LOT better here than anywhere else. The Gamecube was similar, just with lower numbers -- 14 million here, 21+ million worldwide total. Actually, the N64 only sold slightly below the SNES's Americas total of 23.35 million... the SNES only wins by so much worldwide because of how much that system did elsewhere.
Here's the official Nintendo sales chart. Note that these are shipped numbers, not sold, but all we can do is assume that they eventually sold. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/his..._e0912.pdf
Quote:Is 10,000 right for Pong? Arguments on whether it counts as a console or not, there were multiple iterations, and I had the distinct impression that it was frickin' HUGE in the 70's. I'd expect more than just 10,000 people nationwide to own one.
Yeah, I'm sure that number is wrong. There were literally dozens of Pong clones on the market in the '70s, they probably didn't sell well compared to later generations, but 10,000? No way, I'm sure it was more.
Quote:Do you know Japanese or something now GR?
He got it from a GAF thread, somebody there translated it. He just didn't bother to cite the link to the source... here it is. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.p...035&page=4