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    1st June 2010, 3:27 PM
    You misunderstand. Lavos' Final Form is not some "alien astronaut", it's Lavos' final super evolved form. That's made very clear in the sequel. That IS Lavos, molting his shell after finally absorbing all the DNA and magic of our world. In fact, when you ultimately kill Lavos in the game, while in that messed up pocket dimension he created, something happens. Lavos attempts to save itself by jettisoning some of itself, but there's nowhere left to go. So it ends up in literal nothingness, void, with itself defining the rules. Schala is there as well, asleep, and it merges with her, becoming far more powerful.

    But there's one thing, there IS a major god besides Lavos in the story. The planet is alive. You know the "entity" in Chrono Trigger everyone wonders about, the one sending you throughout history to direct you to key events? They mention that these must be key events in that entity's life time. Well, the ONLY entity that was present in every time period is the planet (in prehistoria, Lavos isn't around until the final part of that era's story). There's a group that translated more accurately, and it's far clearer it's the planet in the original Japanese. If that's not enough, Chrono Cross makes it explicit. The thing is, it's not necessarily a benevolent god. It's basically "nature" vs "an outside element". The planet can take or leave humanity. It wanted reptites, who in their timeline developed "biotech", all their buildings and ships and such are living things, and they are much closer to the planet (think the Chozo). Humans, being products of Lavos' influence, aren't nearly in that "harmony" and when they go the route of creating FATE, tampering with the timeline to maintain their own existance, the planet fights back by merging two realities. It's all very weird. In the end, the planet is as much your enemy as your ally, but Lavos is purely the enemy.

    I read some of the story of Earthbound NES. Interesting origin for Giygas, I liked it. I gotta say that seeing it as an aborted fetus is creepy, but that's not really what I see, and due to the ink-blot "what is it" nature of it, I think it's likely just one personal interpretation. I just see raw screaming power. It starts out human, Ness's face, and as the Devil's Machine is turned off, it becomes a disembodied ghostly spirit, a screaming psyche. As the battle goes on, it dissipates, losing it's mind literally before your eyes as it's face slowly dissipates into raw power, static.
    "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 29th May 2010, 1:01 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 29th May 2010, 1:54 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 29th May 2010, 3:21 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 29th May 2010, 3:29 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 29th May 2010, 10:43 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 29th May 2010, 11:52 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 30th May 2010, 1:36 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by A Black Falcon - 30th May 2010, 1:39 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 30th May 2010, 1:42 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 30th May 2010, 2:55 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by A Black Falcon - 31st May 2010, 9:13 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 31st May 2010, 10:10 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by A Black Falcon - 31st May 2010, 11:06 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 31st May 2010, 12:01 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 31st May 2010, 2:10 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 31st May 2010, 8:50 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 1st June 2010, 8:01 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 1st June 2010, 3:27 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 2nd June 2010, 6:54 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 2nd June 2010, 7:03 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 2nd June 2010, 7:10 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 2nd June 2010, 7:17 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by A Black Falcon - 2nd June 2010, 4:24 PM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 3rd June 2010, 6:32 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Great Rumbler - 3rd June 2010, 6:46 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by lazyfatbum - 3rd June 2010, 6:51 AM
    Strange, funny and heartrending... - by Dark Jaguar - 24th October 2010, 8:15 PM

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