23rd March 2010, 9:49 PM
(This post was last modified: 23rd March 2010, 10:24 PM by A Black Falcon.)
-Obama is not a socialist. Ask any socialist (Bernie Sanders, for instance). Obama's most definitely not one. Actual socialists want at least a public option, and probably universal health care like the more socialist countries in Europe have. Obama has always opposed universal health care (one reason why I did not support him in the primaries before the '08 election), and even his support for the public option was lukewarm at best; he didn't fight hard for it at all, and doesn't seem much bothered by the fact that it's not in the bill, sadly. That's good for healthcare companies, bad for Americans who want actual affordable healthcare. Most of the stuff in this bill are things that some Republicans would be supporting if they were being allowed to by their leadership, of that I am certain.
-Obama was born in Hawaii, where his mother and her family lived (and where his grandfather still lives). He even showed the birth certificate to prove it some time ago, in a vain attempt to get the conspiracy theorists to stop. His father abandoned his mother before he was even born, and Obama only ever met his father once, when he was nine or ten years old and his father visited for a month.
-Obama is not a Muslim. He was a member of a UCC church in Chicago for many years before he was elected President for a reason, he's a Christian.
Hitler and the Antichrist I don't think even deserve responses, they are so utterly absurd. So you agree on those... but what about the other, more important really issues above?
The Republican party in general (and conservatives in general) are more sexist and racist than liberals. Just look at the congress, Republicans are almost all white and male while Democrats include almost all of the minority and female members. If the Republican party wants to keep winning, they'll eventually need to deal with these problems... because eventually even Texas will be hard to win if Hispanics keep growing in population while Republicans keep acting like they're evil. That's good for Democrats of course, but still, seeing so much racism isn't something I like...
Of course there are some valid reasons to oppose illegal immigration, and I agree with some of them at least in part. It's really tricky though... for instance it's not fair for people waiting for years to be punished while people who broke the law and snuck in get rewarded... but on the other hand you can't evict them all, so what can you do... I'm just bringing it up because while it's died down for the moment due to all the crazy calls of "Obama is making the US into the Soviet Union" and that somehow the democratic process is the end of liberty (funny how something that happened because people were voted in who wanted it to happen and because a majority of the American people supported it is somehow "against what the American People Want"...), but I'm sure the anti-immigration rhetoric from a few years ago will be back...
Anyway, as far as taxes go, obviously the Republicans' biggest hypocricy, and what makes them completely impossible to take seriously in this whole thing beyond anything else, is that when THEY are in power, they cut taxes and raise spending. They grow the size of government. They grow the deficit and in the long run ruin the nation as a result -- there's a reason that after both Reagan and Bush II there were crashes, cut-taxes-and-spend-more is a long-term recipe for failure, obviously. But now that they're out of power the Republicans talk about shrinking government again, as if people didn't notice what they were doing for the eight years before that or something?
Democrats increase spending too, but at least they make attempts to pay for at least part of it with new taxes.
-Obama was born in Hawaii, where his mother and her family lived (and where his grandfather still lives). He even showed the birth certificate to prove it some time ago, in a vain attempt to get the conspiracy theorists to stop. His father abandoned his mother before he was even born, and Obama only ever met his father once, when he was nine or ten years old and his father visited for a month.
-Obama is not a Muslim. He was a member of a UCC church in Chicago for many years before he was elected President for a reason, he's a Christian.
Hitler and the Antichrist I don't think even deserve responses, they are so utterly absurd. So you agree on those... but what about the other, more important really issues above?
Quote:I want to make it clear to you, my friend, that I am neither Republican nor Democrat. Hell, you can call me one of the following: libertarian, individualist anarchist, constitutional individualist, TEA party member. Yes, I do support the TEA Party movement. And, yes, I do agree with you that there are members of the movement that are racist. However, I can ensure you that I am not a representation of those people. I would never, under any circumstances, call someone the n word. You believe me, right? By the way, Falcon, do you know that the original intent of the TEA party movement was not to show support to people like Palin? The TEA Party movement was actually hijacked by those who...did not agree with its original intent. I can say with 100% certainly that the original members of the movement are not racist. I know because I'm part of the organization that started them.
The Republican party in general (and conservatives in general) are more sexist and racist than liberals. Just look at the congress, Republicans are almost all white and male while Democrats include almost all of the minority and female members. If the Republican party wants to keep winning, they'll eventually need to deal with these problems... because eventually even Texas will be hard to win if Hispanics keep growing in population while Republicans keep acting like they're evil. That's good for Democrats of course, but still, seeing so much racism isn't something I like...
Of course there are some valid reasons to oppose illegal immigration, and I agree with some of them at least in part. It's really tricky though... for instance it's not fair for people waiting for years to be punished while people who broke the law and snuck in get rewarded... but on the other hand you can't evict them all, so what can you do... I'm just bringing it up because while it's died down for the moment due to all the crazy calls of "Obama is making the US into the Soviet Union" and that somehow the democratic process is the end of liberty (funny how something that happened because people were voted in who wanted it to happen and because a majority of the American people supported it is somehow "against what the American People Want"...), but I'm sure the anti-immigration rhetoric from a few years ago will be back...
Anyway, as far as taxes go, obviously the Republicans' biggest hypocricy, and what makes them completely impossible to take seriously in this whole thing beyond anything else, is that when THEY are in power, they cut taxes and raise spending. They grow the size of government. They grow the deficit and in the long run ruin the nation as a result -- there's a reason that after both Reagan and Bush II there were crashes, cut-taxes-and-spend-more is a long-term recipe for failure, obviously. But now that they're out of power the Republicans talk about shrinking government again, as if people didn't notice what they were doing for the eight years before that or something?
Democrats increase spending too, but at least they make attempts to pay for at least part of it with new taxes.
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