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10th March 2010, 4:03 PM

Great Rumbler Wrote:A Black Falcon: Opinion Police

It's not opinion though. It's fact. The best Western developers all used to make computer games. After about 2000, apart from Eastern Europe they almost all moved over to consoles. So suddenly console gamers think "oh wow, Western games have gotten so much better!" when no, they just got better developers, at the cost of the platform that those developers used to be supporting. :(

That is, whether you like PC-style or console-style games better is opinion (I like both kinds a lot myself), but the idea that western games are better once they went console than they were before is false, hands-down.

Quote:From 1999 Western developers went from "Oh yeah the guys who make Doom and Rareware in Europe" to an explosion, some companies you can look at their time line and see they made three or four PC titles with a small team before getting on consoles and making dozens of successful games and increasing their development studios that all had nothing to do with 2004's World of Social Anxiety Craft or Tom Clancey's Combat Simulator with a Story series.

100% console-only-gamer perspective. Not much to say if you didn't play or didn't like PC games... but what you're saying there is just crazy. It's obvious you never paid any attention to the PC gaming industry... what you say in that paragraph has no connection to reality, apart perhaps for sales; it is true that in general console games sell better.

Again the real break came in about 2001-2002. Early hints of the collapse of the PC gaming industry were seen several years before then, when it was still at its height, but the crash didn't really come until several years later, after the PS2 and Xbox came out and tempted all the PC developers to go console in order to make more money...

Oh yeah, and the Japanese have always been an afterthought in PC gaming. Very few decent PC games have ever come from Japan (apart from Japan-only releases from KOEI and Falcom, doujin shmups and fighting games, and dating sims, they've got about nothing). And in the '90s PC games were amazing.

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Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 7th March 2010, 4:39 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Fittisize - 7th March 2010, 5:09 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 8th March 2010, 3:41 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 8th March 2010, 5:25 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 8th March 2010, 5:50 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 8th March 2010, 6:00 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 8th March 2010, 6:24 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 8th March 2010, 6:48 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 8th March 2010, 6:52 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 8th March 2010, 7:01 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Weltall - 9th March 2010, 5:38 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 9th March 2010, 10:35 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 9th March 2010, 3:06 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 9th March 2010, 10:32 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by EdenMaster - 9th March 2010, 11:13 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 10th March 2010, 7:18 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 10th March 2010, 8:28 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 10th March 2010, 4:03 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 10th March 2010, 5:11 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 10th March 2010, 9:02 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 10th March 2010, 9:08 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 10th March 2010, 9:11 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 10th March 2010, 9:22 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 10th March 2010, 9:26 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 10th March 2010, 9:33 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 10th March 2010, 10:06 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 10th March 2010, 10:24 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 11th March 2010, 9:07 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 11th March 2010, 6:31 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 11th March 2010, 7:28 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Weltall - 11th March 2010, 8:21 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 11th March 2010, 8:31 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 11th March 2010, 9:51 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 11th March 2010, 10:16 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 12th March 2010, 1:44 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 12th March 2010, 3:12 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 12th March 2010, 7:05 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 12th March 2010, 8:46 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 12th March 2010, 10:55 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 12th March 2010, 11:18 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 12th March 2010, 11:24 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 13th March 2010, 11:36 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 13th March 2010, 11:51 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 13th March 2010, 9:52 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 14th March 2010, 8:51 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Weltall - 14th March 2010, 3:44 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 14th March 2010, 5:29 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Weltall - 14th March 2010, 5:41 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 14th March 2010, 5:48 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Weltall - 14th March 2010, 5:49 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 14th March 2010, 6:05 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Sacred Jellybean - 14th March 2010, 6:17 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by etoven - 14th March 2010, 6:41 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 14th March 2010, 7:03 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 15th March 2010, 9:04 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 15th March 2010, 11:46 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by EdenMaster - 16th March 2010, 4:03 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 16th March 2010, 9:13 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 16th March 2010, 9:36 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by lazyfatbum - 16th March 2010, 9:39 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 16th March 2010, 9:58 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 16th March 2010, 11:47 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 16th March 2010, 4:37 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 16th March 2010, 6:23 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 16th March 2010, 7:09 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 16th March 2010, 8:37 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 17th March 2010, 9:20 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Weltall - 17th March 2010, 9:34 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 17th March 2010, 10:36 AM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by EdenMaster - 17th March 2010, 2:00 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 17th March 2010, 2:23 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 17th March 2010, 3:04 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 17th March 2010, 4:46 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 17th March 2010, 5:11 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 17th March 2010, 7:20 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 18th March 2010, 5:23 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Great Rumbler - 18th March 2010, 5:24 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by A Black Falcon - 18th March 2010, 6:05 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by Darunia - 19th March 2010, 3:06 PM

Best [and Worst] of the Past Decade - by alien space marine - 8th March 2010, 3:19 PM

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