8th November 2009, 2:52 AM
I think the way it will happen nationwide is like with school integration, eventually the Supreme Court will say that anything else is unconstitutional. But that'll probably take a while, and yeah, it's likely some states will legalize it before then.
This defeat in Maine means that anti gay marriage people are now looking seriously into getting New Hampshire and Vermont ballot issues, to stop their gay marriage laws too.
You know, government exists in part to protect minorities from the majority... and so do the courts... so yeah, that's why I think that eventually the key move will come in the courts.
If not that, then certainly the people will eventually, in some number of years, support gay marriage. It's really too bad that we aren't quite there yet... I thought it'd be closer than it was. :(
... Oh yeah, and how, exactly, are the huge amounts of direct support the Catholic and Mormon churches gave to this effort, and California's last year, legal? Aren't there laws about this kind of thing?
Yes, it is awesome. Very close, just 220-215... but it passed. The one major caveat is that anti-abortion activists managed to get a horrific radical anti-abortion amendment included into the bill that totally bans any coverage of abortion under any government-funded health plan, meaning that women who can't afford to buy separate insurance to cover it will just have to suffer and die in backstreet abortions or something... hopefully this does not make it into the final bill! It's kind of amazing that while we make slow progress on gay rights, abortion rights seem headed straight the opposite direction... people have forgotten some of the reasons why it was legalized in the first place. Hopefully we won't have to learn that again... but at this rate, who knows.
But other than that, yes, it was fantastic news that it passed. Now for the Senate...
This defeat in Maine means that anti gay marriage people are now looking seriously into getting New Hampshire and Vermont ballot issues, to stop their gay marriage laws too.
You know, government exists in part to protect minorities from the majority... and so do the courts... so yeah, that's why I think that eventually the key move will come in the courts.
If not that, then certainly the people will eventually, in some number of years, support gay marriage. It's really too bad that we aren't quite there yet... I thought it'd be closer than it was. :(
... Oh yeah, and how, exactly, are the huge amounts of direct support the Catholic and Mormon churches gave to this effort, and California's last year, legal? Aren't there laws about this kind of thing?
Quote:In other news, WOW. The healthcare reform bill passed the House. Now it's off to the Senate, so we can't celebrate just yet. Still, I'm pleasantly surprised.
Yes, it is awesome. Very close, just 220-215... but it passed. The one major caveat is that anti-abortion activists managed to get a horrific radical anti-abortion amendment included into the bill that totally bans any coverage of abortion under any government-funded health plan, meaning that women who can't afford to buy separate insurance to cover it will just have to suffer and die in backstreet abortions or something... hopefully this does not make it into the final bill! It's kind of amazing that while we make slow progress on gay rights, abortion rights seem headed straight the opposite direction... people have forgotten some of the reasons why it was legalized in the first place. Hopefully we won't have to learn that again... but at this rate, who knows.
But other than that, yes, it was fantastic news that it passed. Now for the Senate...
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