27th August 2009, 10:58 PM
No one's understanding it and I dont know how to explain it and ABF/Weltall do you even have a Wii? Have you gotten frustrated with finding actual games for it? Again it's not just shovelware and again, comparing the NES to Wii just doesn't match up. A side from the dissection of the NES era to the Playstation era comparisons, the Wii has shovelware and no bright spots for actual gamers.
It's not like we can say "Yeah there's a lot of krap, but there's a lot of great games." No, there's a handful of games and it's not enough to keep anyone interested unless they're buying the system for fitness (which is exactly what a lot of third parties are banking on). At the last get together, one of Nintendo's main unveiling was the heart sensor. Now a controller with a built in sensor to measure your BPM and temperature can have thousands of gameplay options but a clip that immobilizes your finger is just backwards thinking for gaming. It's going to be a game of Tetris played with just the Wiimote where you control the speed by keeping your heart rate down and breathing properly, or a Wii fit update for zen centering and controlled breathing.
This is going to entice non gameplayers for sure who will love the novelty and break it out at parties but where does that leave everyone else?
Ryan no matter how much you nitpick the numbers, the PSX unleashed a much larger number of games than the NES and on a much larger scale in a much larger industry (saying much, much to much). The third parties didn't have to kill each other during NES, it was like everyone had equal chance of success on the shelf but with PSX there were so many games so quickly, ramped costs, etc that companies resorted to cannibalism and pushed the market in to a deadzone. Even with everything Wii and 360 have done thus far, that threat of a deadzone still looms because it's been huge road to recovery.
Japan got sick of huge games, "time consuming games" etc so in Japan the more mini and the idea of a 'break' that it gives the better it will sell. But in America we want huge time consuming games so we can get fatter and have more fictional lore to debate. With PS3 playing its cards as well as its doing now and 360 already sailing perfectly with its bad hardware in the past and nothing but blue skies ahead of it, the Wii is going to enjoy phenomenal success with people who will probably buy 4 games for it the entire time they own it (not counting VC). The entire industry is slowly getting off the fence and either fully supporting Wii or abandoning it (or cashing in on something) so you have Capcom release a flagship RE5 on 360 and a rail shooter on Wii, then you have Red Steel 2, TMNT:SU, Silent Hill, etc but what's going to happen when these games see moderate if not mediocre success? With NES, PSX, PS2, soon to be 360 etc, even with a flooded market the good games sold well (considering, though is it no wonder that people today are just finding out about SH1 and 2?), but that wont happen on Wii.
If Silent Hill and JU-ON bomb, Red Steel 2, too then prepare to watch third parties jump ship like the launch of the PS3. Am I the only one that can see the logic there? ABF especially, I dont think you have any clue what i'm talking about. I'm not saying the Wii is dead or krap or not a good system right now, i'm saying it's on track to fail unless Nintendo does something and you can already see that failure unfolding.
It's not like we can say "Yeah there's a lot of krap, but there's a lot of great games." No, there's a handful of games and it's not enough to keep anyone interested unless they're buying the system for fitness (which is exactly what a lot of third parties are banking on). At the last get together, one of Nintendo's main unveiling was the heart sensor. Now a controller with a built in sensor to measure your BPM and temperature can have thousands of gameplay options but a clip that immobilizes your finger is just backwards thinking for gaming. It's going to be a game of Tetris played with just the Wiimote where you control the speed by keeping your heart rate down and breathing properly, or a Wii fit update for zen centering and controlled breathing.
This is going to entice non gameplayers for sure who will love the novelty and break it out at parties but where does that leave everyone else?
Ryan no matter how much you nitpick the numbers, the PSX unleashed a much larger number of games than the NES and on a much larger scale in a much larger industry (saying much, much to much). The third parties didn't have to kill each other during NES, it was like everyone had equal chance of success on the shelf but with PSX there were so many games so quickly, ramped costs, etc that companies resorted to cannibalism and pushed the market in to a deadzone. Even with everything Wii and 360 have done thus far, that threat of a deadzone still looms because it's been huge road to recovery.
Japan got sick of huge games, "time consuming games" etc so in Japan the more mini and the idea of a 'break' that it gives the better it will sell. But in America we want huge time consuming games so we can get fatter and have more fictional lore to debate. With PS3 playing its cards as well as its doing now and 360 already sailing perfectly with its bad hardware in the past and nothing but blue skies ahead of it, the Wii is going to enjoy phenomenal success with people who will probably buy 4 games for it the entire time they own it (not counting VC). The entire industry is slowly getting off the fence and either fully supporting Wii or abandoning it (or cashing in on something) so you have Capcom release a flagship RE5 on 360 and a rail shooter on Wii, then you have Red Steel 2, TMNT:SU, Silent Hill, etc but what's going to happen when these games see moderate if not mediocre success? With NES, PSX, PS2, soon to be 360 etc, even with a flooded market the good games sold well (considering, though is it no wonder that people today are just finding out about SH1 and 2?), but that wont happen on Wii.
If Silent Hill and JU-ON bomb, Red Steel 2, too then prepare to watch third parties jump ship like the launch of the PS3. Am I the only one that can see the logic there? ABF especially, I dont think you have any clue what i'm talking about. I'm not saying the Wii is dead or krap or not a good system right now, i'm saying it's on track to fail unless Nintendo does something and you can already see that failure unfolding.