26th August 2008, 1:55 PM
Quote:Fittisize, I think he was saying that while Alberta is conservative, the rest of Canada is for the most part pretty liberal. I think that's pretty clearly true, and a Canadian 'conservative' is nothing compared to an American conservative... Canadian conservatives are nowhere near as far right, I'm pretty sure. America is just a more conservative country. It's so bad that even the Democrats are just barely, on only some issues, left of center... the center is the "left" in many people's minds. Actual left-wing views are pretty rare, really... most Democratic politicians are centrists, for instance, while most Republicans are much farther towards the extreme. It does seem that America is edging just slightly left this year, maybe, but as all of the close polls show, even there the right-wingers are able to hang on, despite all logic...
Exactly, When I put that up my concentration was taxed from fatigue since I suffered bouts of insomnia during that week, Those "thoughts just needed to come out" :D .
The conservative movement of Canada is divided into two segments, The old red Tories of the former "progressive conservative party" which was more centrist and closer to the democrats of the U.S, What makes the red Tories different is that they are fiscally conservative.
The new Tories make up members of the former "reform party", They fed off the alienation of the western Canadians disaffected with the eastern oriented federal goverment in Ottawa.
Alberta and the prairie provinces was settled by "cattle ranchers" and agrarians from the USA some generations ago .
*Something like that shitty Michael Landon tv show from the 1970's little house on the prairie*
A good portion retained their American god fearing ana-baptist values

The new Tories integrated with the old largely centrist red Tories during the merger in 2003-2004 , Hard right exreformers from Alberta (Northern Jesusland) have taken leadership of the new "Torie party" and in a sense their something of a offshoot of the American republican party. Since the demographics are not there to support "jesusland" politics the Tories are heading for the middle trying to do a balancing act to appease east and west, The new Tories are pro Zionism and all for unconditional support for Israel which has alienated their "ethnic vote" especially since the recent Israeli-Lebanon war.
Part of me hopes that the "red Tories" will reassert leadership in the future and move the party more towards the center.
I predict a Liberal minority goverment in the coming future.
Neo Cons came from American ultra liberalism, In reality their masquerading as conservatives.