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    25th June 2008, 8:22 PM
    I thought I'd add there are a number of places for more stories. For example, Minish Cap shows that even before that game, there was another Link looking fellow (this one just lacking a hat, certainly an epic change that would NOT BE TOLERATED) who first saved the world from darkness using that legendary sword when it was first created. Apparently this was also where the royal line first attained the Light Force. I'd like to play that game. They could make this a major origin story for the whole thing, such as Link's name. I'm one to think all the Links come from the same family line, one where EVERY first born son is named Link. It's certainly better than something like "destiny did it". As for Tingle, I'm pretty sure none of them were actually named that at birth and the original Tingle just inspired the rest in tales to become total freaks.

    I STILL WANT THE TINGLE RPG! Apparently it was translated and released in Europe... Sounds like an import invitation to me! (Fortunately it is a portable game so the PAL/NTSC thing won't come into it.)

    Anyway, there could also be a story explaining what the heck is going on with Ganondorf in Four Swords Adventures. It was sure a cool story twist to have Ganondorf appear from the desert and overthrow Vaati as the main boss of the game, but it presents a few problems for continuity. While they showed the source of his trident weapon, which made him transform into a pig demon form, the one issue is that he was specifically said to have been recently born in OOT as the new prince of the Gerudo tribe. So, that begs the question of who this Ganondorf is. The second issue is that while Vaati was killed, Ganondorf was sealed within the Four Sword. I can accept if they reveal that Ganondorf is a spirit that is reborn in the Gerudo tribe every now and then and his appearence in OOT was a reincarnation that had similar goals, but a wiped memory (as reincarnations tend to do). However, I doubt he could reincarnate if he was sealed inside a sword at the time. There needs to be a story explaining how he broke free and was actually killed. This same story could also explain the origin of the Master Sword. Either the Four Sword could become it (giving up the splitting power to gain more power to defeat evil) or the Four Sword could be shattered by the release of the evil king and a new sword forged. If they want to make a new Four Sword style game, they'd have to go with the former (gameplay comes first), in which case the story would have to actually destroy the Four Sword in doing something to get rid of Ganondorf, rather than during the final fight. As for what, it's hard to say. He isn't reincarnated in any other games, so if he's outright killed here it makes one wonder why that never happened after LTTP. He can't just be sealed, he needs to be outright born in OOT's story, not released. I think the only way to make it work is for them to leave him for dead instead of outright killing him and show some scene after that game's completion where someone finds his body as he's still dying and decides to cast some spell before his final breathe that would allow his spirit to reincarnate in a new Gerudo host a century from then, thus allowing that legend. Yeah, that'd work.

    There's also a gap in explaining how ganon got the rest of the triforce. I think the best explanation I have at this point is that when King Hyrule wished for a future for Link and Zelda and then wished for the triforce to vanish, it vanished to the Sacred Realm, which allowed Ganon, when he was returned there, to claim it in it's entirety.

    Another question is what became of Link after Link's Awakening (the game and the event at the end of the game :D). It appears he was floating aimlessly at sea but still happy. Did he ever get back home or did he die at sea? They could have another adventure for him after that anyway.

    Another thing is, how did Ganon come back to life after the events in Link to the Past? My own suspicion is that since it was intended as a prequel, Ganon's death was never meant to be permanent and Zelda 2 probably has the best explanation. Unlike all the previous games in that time line, Ganon didn't get banished again, he was killed. Zelda 2 states that he can be returned to life using the blood of the one who killed him in some ritual, possibly invoking a thousand-faced moon. So, that's probably what happened. That is, the servants of Ganon killed Link or found his remains and used them to revive him a long time later, when no one would remember what happened. If so, and LA does take place after LTTP, then it makes one wonder all the more about that story.

    Of course, lastly I would always like to see the story continue on from AFTER Zelda 2.

    One thing is that while Hyrule is guilty of techno-stasis as is any fantasy world (and Star Wars for that matter), there does at least seem to be progress. Some games show a noted increase in tech level in certain areas, which is reverted in other eras with good reason. I mean after OOT, the world was flooded and had to rebuild. After Wind Waker, they had to rebuild a society in a new Hyrule. Before Zelda 1, Ganon's invasion reduced the entire kingdom to a prehistoric cave society with not even houses and Zelda 2 showed that they managed to rebuild from that. So, they are a little better off than the average fantasy world in terms of explaining the stasis. Even Twilight Princess shows some noted tech advancements since OOT.
    "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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