22nd May 2008, 11:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 22nd May 2008, 11:41 PM by alien space marine.)
A Black Falcon Wrote:It was a really, really long post, posted in many places I'm sure, and obviously meant as spam and not a real post... it could potentially have been left, though, yeah. I don't know if I would have deleted it.
Do you know how incredibly unlikely that is? By now, after so long, that's just not going to happen. You can't spend 60 years building up this stuff and then suddenly expect it to all disappear.
I mean, both sides are dominated by religious zealots. Religious zealots are not often going to negotiate and give up anything to the other side easily... and also, they want the same land. To many of them it is a zero-sum game.
Those refugee camps only still exist because the Arab governments who run them want the Palestinians angry at Israel. There is absolutely no logical explanation for "refugee" camps that are still there sixty years later! It just makes absolutely no sense... except when you consider that they are there to keep the people in poverty and ignorance. Poverty and ignorance are the two strongest things pushing Palestinians into hatred of Israel... and while the Israeli government has certainly done some things to further that,the Arab governments have too. Neither side really wants peace.
As for violence, both sides have done many horrible things.
I've said that the Arabs often are their own worse enemy.
The Moslem establishment is not focussed on bettering the welfare of Palestinians and righting injustices, In reality it is the total elimination of the Jewish nation state that is the expressed objective and Palestinians are merely pawns.They regard Israel as a unwanted impure presence on their realm, Which is why they rejected the idea of allowing a Jewish nation in Palestine to be established from day one.
There is no doubt that expansionist ambitions for a greater Israel is the quiet goal of those in power in Tel Aviv , More shocking is that former members of Irgun and nehi who are war criminals sit in office like the late prime Ministry Ariel Sharon.
The west bank settlements,checkpoints, military installations,outposts are all part of a plan to shew the inhabitants of Palestine into leaving as they have come to the conclusions that the Arabs are unappeasable.
We have ignored this conflict for to long, It is the greatest grievance that feeds terrorism.