14th March 2008, 6:59 PM
Quote:Also, I'm curious, what's the rebuttal to the fact that temperature has climbed exponentially since the industrial revolution?
How about this one: What caused the Little Ice Age or the Medieval Warming Period? Those certainly weren't caused by man-made Co2 emissions.
The evidence provided in the movies stated that Co2 was actually tied to temperature change, but in the exact opposite of the way that most people say. As in, an increase in temperature leads to in increase in Co2 emissions, but with an 800 year lag. The changes in the temperature were attributed to fluctuations in solar activity, both of which showed a high degree of connection when plotted over hundreds of years.
It also points out that temperature was increasing a lot during the pre-WWII era, when industrial production was still relatively young, but actually dropped slightly during the post war era when industrial production was ramped up.
Quote:As he points out, if it was induced by the sun, Mercury would have an incredibly greater amount of warming, and Pluto's would be so small we wouldn't notice it. Remember, light diminishes by the square of the distance.
I think a poster on that page made a good point: We don't even know enough about how our own planets works, so it might not be the best of ideas to use what we can tell from other planets as a basis for action.
Quote:I do believe in anthropogenic climate change, though, simply because it's the consensus of geologists.
Well, that's the problem isn't? Does consensus on a subject make it so? What's important to figure out is WHY is their a consesus. And, of course, is there really a consesus.
Which is the whole problem with this issue no matter how you look at. It's obvious that a lot of money is now flowing into global climate research which, in turn, is providing a lot of jobs and a lot funding for a lot of people. It's not hard to imagine that some people might be turning a blind eye to a few facts here and there to make sure that money doesn't dry up any time soon.
Get together a huge group of scientists from every different field, have them look over all the data, and then tell us what it says. That would probably go a long way it make things clearer.
The other movies was "The Great Global Warming Swindle", by the way.
Sometimes you get the scorpion.