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    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis.
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    6th July 2007, 10:46 PM
    Quote:Me: Dex was just awesome, I was so pissed when it got canceled. It was the first modern cartoon I saw where I thought "Wow this is good". The hidden stuff about family, upbringing even sexuality and incest was written so well that people fell in to it and, the older the viewer, the more they understood. Just plain genius.

    I'm not sure how much of what we caught is the same, but I never got any impressions of incest and sexuality. Which episodes have moments that imply this? What's shown?

    I agree with some of what you've written here. To get one thing straight, though, does passive subtextual storytelling includes both biblical themes and personal experiences, yes? When I first read this, I was confused, and thought you were implying that all stories in this category had biblical roots.

    I think what you're saying is insightful and applies to many stories, but insisting that all stories can be categorized into two subgroups is a pitfall. How do you categorize something that's completely irrelevant? Where do the stories (as random and assanine as they are) of something like Aqua Teen Hunger Force fit into all this?

    Quote:But it's most common form is ads and commercials where groups of designers come up with a campaign based off the wants and needs of basic human elements and covertly establish a level of social acceptance in order to sell a product (even lying to do so) - but they, like Kubrick, will first sell you its idea and concept - causing the viewer to gain his or her own opinion on whether they want it or not which isn't entirely your own since what you know about it was dictated by its source which raises our inability to trust our own judgment and rely on the social acceptance aspect and when its done really well you can have an entire nation or even the world buying a drink that actually tastes bad or a 600 dollar MP3 player.

    How does this fit in with "event in history (birth of America) or a thought process that's generally well known (religion) and study it to a degree that actually allows them to philosophize and educate others but in a hidden way so as to not come across as a soap box preacher and allow the viewer to gain their own insight and opinion from it"?

    Quote:The story teller doesn't want to lie to you so instead of trying to get you interested in some meaningless product there's a deep significance and morality such as human life, social climate and understanding, dynamics of faith Vs. reality and whats applied to life or gaining a fully encompassing understanding of the ideals of a historical event that would normally take volumes upon chapters and hours of education in a relatively short period of time and in a way that you weren't conscious to because just like the ad designers who used tried and true psychology with images and sound to attack your subconscious the master story teller applied the same rules - suddenly seeing a movie that has nothing to do with God or the ideal of God has actually given you a significant understanding of the ideal of God.

    Are we watching the same ads? I just don't see how this can be the case. And there must be some degree of customer satisfaction with iPods and drinks. We're not so blind as to continue to do something we know is unpleasant and unnecessary because it's socially acceptable.
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    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by lazyfatbum - 3rd July 2007, 6:07 AM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by lazyfatbum - 6th July 2007, 6:20 PM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by Great Rumbler - 6th July 2007, 7:18 PM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by Sacred Jellybean - 6th July 2007, 10:46 PM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by lazyfatbum - 7th July 2007, 6:39 AM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by Great Rumbler - 7th July 2007, 7:57 AM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by Dark Jaguar - 7th July 2007, 6:49 PM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by Great Rumbler - 7th July 2007, 8:37 PM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by lazyfatbum - 8th July 2007, 6:30 AM
    A Cigar is a cigar... unless it's a penis. - by Great Rumbler - 8th July 2007, 11:25 AM

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