X360 Elite

[Paco]

Oh come on... when you compare what Sony does for online policy to what Nintendo does, Sony looks really, really good. Microsoft has better? Of course! That's not the point! The point is that Sony's, flawed as it is, is almost infinitely superior to Nintendo's online network. Really, even if PS3 games aren't required to be online- aware, at least if developers want to they CAN make their games online on that platform, with a decent, if not fanastic, online featureset...

I know nothing about Nintendo's online plans. I haven't used it yet.

Yeah, but my point is that PSN still has a way to go before it has Live in its sights. Until then, Microsoft can and likely will continue to charge. Sony can't charge because their service isn't worth much at this point.

Wha... huh? Wii IS wi-fi. You only get wired if you buy the wired adaptor ($40). Out of the box, it's wi-fi or nothing. (and I know I have complained about that before...)

Sorry, I meant wired. I wasn't aware there was an adaptor. In any case, it's still not necessary for everyone. It should stay as an added cost.

What do you mean by this?

There is Live Silver (free) and Live Gold (subscription). Live Silver allows you to do everything except online game play. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to play against others online. My friends has been on Live and is happy with it just having access to all the media and arcade games. When I get mine, I highly doubt I'll subscribe- I don't like playing against people online so I can cut the cost of Live, and I won't need Wi-fi either so I can cut that cost as well.