X360 Elite

[Paco]

You're wrong. While Sony has no standard for the PSN network, they allow publishers putting games there to have features like the ability to add people you meet ingame to your friends list, to talk to other people ingame, etc... while it doesn't match Xbox Live for sure, it's worlds away from what Nintendo is doing. I mean, currently, Wii games CANNOT have online play. And if they do, there's pretty much no way that they'll allow conversations with the other players, except MAYBE in friends-only games. And as for those friends codes... we'll see, but if they end up being game-specific as rumored, despite the system codes, I would be very far from surprised.

I'm not wrong. Developers for the PS3 don't have to do anything regarding PSN. Microsoft made it mandatory that all 360 games are Live aware at the very least.

It will happen in time... the point is, the X360 is a year and a half old now. They have released a few games aimed at the mass market. Sales won't get up to Nintendo's level anytime in the forseeable future. And they're raising the price? Really, I think that the number one group that this thing is going to sell to is rich current X360 owners who want a larger HDD and a black system... it won't help them win the console war.

Really, they should have both wired and wi-fi. Nintendo is stupid for not having wired, Microsoft is stupid for not having wi-fi... fixing Nintendo's stupidity is cheaper than fixing Microsoft's, but really, in both cases it should have been included, like Sony did.

And as for value, if you mean game selection, you are right. But if you mean price... no, not really. They're both overly expensive, but thanks to Xbox Live costs, the 360 is the more expensive one.

The 360 can have wi-fi. AFAIK, the Wii can't.

Again, online play is not necessary. You can access all the other features there are to offer for free.

Wi-fi is not necessary, and it shouldn't be included in every set because not everyone will have a need for it. Why make those who don't need it or want it pay for it?